In a post from a few days ago, I noticed that someone mentioned that they were afraid to post about their dislike of the Tudor BB58 for fear of downvoting. You know what? The BB is a boring watch that’s not worth the money, and Tudor wouldn’t be half as popular as it is without the connection to Rolex. If Rolexes were as attainable as they were in past years, cut that by a factor of 10. Would you really buy a BB if the reality were that you could just save a little bit more and get a Rolex Submariner? That’s my hot take. What’s yours?

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    Panerai should be commended for never faltering or compromising on their wild fucking design language.

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      I’m a fan of the look but not their internals. After seeing how bland the movement looks, I’ve been turned off

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      Agree and disagree. I think it’s admirable that Panerai has kept to it’s iconic design. But I think they could have done that while releasing additional lines and options.

      Keep the original Panerai line as it is as the main line, and release a additional line for GADA sports watch, chronograph, dress watch, and etc. They don’t need to do all of that, but they should at least have more than one look to the brand in general. Right now Panerai is a very stuck one trick pony.(though admittedly it’s a cool trick)

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    Fuck it branding does matter. I’m not wearing an Invicta that looks like a Submariner. I’m not wearing a Cadisen. Would honestly rather wear a fake - both are faking anyway

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    Modern smart watches are superior to mechanical pieces and should be the standard recommendation for most people to daily.

    Quartz watches are worthless trash that have neither the utilitarian benefit of smart watches nor the sentimental value of mechanical watches.

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    Fuck Rolex and the typical rolex hypebeast wearer. Boring dials, boring styles that are imitated ad nauseum across other brands.

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    The worship of G-Shocks is dumb, and you aren’t any more of a “watch guy” for wearing a G-Shock than somebody is for wearing an apple watch

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    TAG Heuer Monaco is ugly as sin. The watch may grow on some of us with time, but it is the Steve McQueen story that we eventually buy into and not a newfound appreciation for the design. It will always be an ugly piece.

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    I fully understand watches are a luxury item. The community seems completely out-of-touch with what constitutes ‘reasonable money’ or ‘low-end.’

    That’s generally my opinion on most collectible markets anymore, though. So, what the fuck do I know?

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    Everything that youtube reviewers crack on aren’t that important. If every watch had a sapphire crystal, an adjustable clasp, 200m WR with a screw down crown, was “value for money” and had good lume… well, we’d all be wearing a dive watch from a microbrand.

    I like the variety of watches out there.

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      Same, though for me personally, the absolute minimum dealbreaker for any watch (excluding something like a G-Shock) is that it needs a sapphire crystal. I am tough on my watches, and a non-sapphire will get scratched up (or worse) very quickly.

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        Same. For some reason, I always found the metal door jamb (around the magnetic lock) at ATM booths with my watch.

        Oh Hardlex, I hardly knew ya.

        I guess now its just an indicator of quality for me if they use sapphire - as it isn’t expensive. It’s just not cheap like mineral.

        Bought a great looking Dufa meca-quartz, but returned it as soon as I discovered the domed crystal wasn’t sapphire. That’s just begging for trouble.

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        Acrylic is my favourite bar none. I live domed acrylic. I wish I could get a river made by Tudor, or Omega or someone with acrylic.

        Not interested in Longines, Oris, etc

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      This. I recntly had this realization when looking into the new Hamilton Boulton “Indy” version. Imo it’s just a great-looking watch and a good price; every single review talked about how disappointing it having a snap-on back case was…What?

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      This description is way to accurate describing the cheap (albeit quality) Chinese homage dive watches. My Heimdallr Sharky feels attacked

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      Everyone on this sub should be issued an orient Kamasu to show them they don’t have to be an obsessed weirdo spending five figures on a watch to get all the “premium” features

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      And those old dive watches from the 60’s? Only rated for 5atm. So, on a normal day, went I’m not on call for Seal Team 6, I think I’m be fine with any watch that is 5atm.

      In fact there is huge controversy about needing anything more and swimming with one is absolutely fine.

      I love dive watches, but it is quickly becoming apparent that they serve little purpose now.

      Other controversial opinion: Watches are too damn thick and big. It’s like the trend with car emblems. Refinement is why I got into this game.

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    There’s no such thing as “value for money” in the luxury watch space. All luxury watches are overpriced - that is the whole point of “luxury” - duh. Speaking along the same lines, I saw a reviewer try to justify the price difference between two dive watches because one was METAS certified whilst the other was only COSC certified - literally for 99.999% of people this won’t make a difference. Most of these luxury watch goobers take their watches off to wash their hands.

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      Yeah people don’t understand that the price of a luxury good can be a feature. If you could buy a Patek for $100 no one would care about it. People crave the exclusivity… marketing at its finest lol

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      I think you’re conflating “relative value” with “absolute value.” Sure, a $5k mechanical watch can’t compete with a cheap quartz if the metric is timekeeping. But if you’re comparing multiple different luxury watches for finishing, accuracy, and other specs, there’s bound to be models that are offering more features for less money.

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      two dive watches because one was METAS certified whilst the other was only COSC certified - literally for 99.999% of people this won’t make a difference.

      Exactly, and for the 0.0001% of people for whom it actually does matter, they’d be better off getting a G shock or something because it’ll be more durable, keep better time, more readable in the dark, longer lasting battery, etc. No point in talking about practicality for something that’s inherently impractical.

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      This is so wrong. When I’m at my weekend home in the Mariana Trench (seasonal, of course) I frequently rely on my watch. How else would I gauge the depths, time, and pressure? With much more modern, precise, computerized equipment in the submersible? Pshaw.

      For real. Certification flies out the window once your new watch gets banged around, even slightly.

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      Mmm plenty of people work near large magnets and the metas cert guarantees protection from 15000 gauss, or an MRI. And the fact that each cased up watch gets in water resistance tested is a plus.

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        I mean… sure but if that’s your use case due to work then you’re probably better served by a digital Casio than a luxury dive watch. I could time my lifts at the gym with the bezel on my SMP but I still use an Apple Watch for that because it’s a better fit for the job.

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      The anti-magnetism part of the METAS testing is particularly silly, completely pointless and just for marketing.

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      Just because most people won’t know the difference doesn’t mean that there isn’t a justification in the price difference. You could say that about laymen in anything. METAS certification has more testing and I’m assuming it costs more.

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      Hey, I’m a nurse and I need a watch that can handle a good wash 50 times a day.

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      You say that now, but when I’m exactly 1.5 seconds late to the big meeting and you’re 3.75 seconds late, you’ll wish your watch had this kind of accuracy.

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    Never be afraid of downvoting. If you say what you think nobody can take that away from you.

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      Bro I don’t understand why people like the PRX 😭

      The design is just revolting to me. I get that it’s got good quality and a good movement and such, but most integrated steel sports watches just look terrible to me.

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        I have one and I love BUT, the lume is pathetic. Might as well NOT if it’s gonna be like that

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        The movement isn’t good. It’s a throwaway with plastic escapement (that does break) and dear god is it ugly. I’ve never liked the look of the 2824, and the C07.111 just makes it worse. It’s accurate when it’s new I guess?

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      I was a hater, and I even didn’t like in the store on wrist at first. BUT I gave it a second chance on wrist months later, and it kind of won me over. I still had my reservation, but I decided to give it try with plans to sell it once honeymoon period was over. A year and half later, I hate that I love it and it’s part of my permanent collection now.

      I think the big hurdle was to see past the integrated watch hype and the idea that PRX is a budget option for that category. Once I started seeing the watch as its own thing without the hype baggage I started to like it much more. It’s an automatic sports watch that wears thinner than it should, catches light beautifully, and has the specs to handle daily wear.

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    My unpopular take: people that can’t afford luxury watches shouldn’t go voicing their unpopular opinion about them.

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      Do you apply the same logic to other domains? For instance, that people who can’t become politicians should not voice their opinions about politicians, or that people people who has not been to prison should not voice their opinions about crimes, etc.

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          But you don’t know all the ins and outs of the job. I don’t hold this view but it is analogous to what you originally said.

          Watches are part of fashion, anyone into fashion is part of that domain.

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      I applaud you for a genuinely unpopular take. I disagree, but will upvote you just to be contrary.