Don’t you know? Only the finest hand crafted memes printed on virgin linen parchment, drawn with natural carbon neutral inks and colored with vegan dyes can win over the working classes.
haha here’s the prompt: A candid photograph of an elderly artisan with a focused expression, wearing a tweed apron in a cluttered studio, meticulously using a fine-tipped brush to paint a crudely drawn meme on a large piece of textured linen parchment. The meme shows a muscular figure with the face of Lenin wearing a backwards cap, labeled “CHAD LENIN” in blocky letters, next to a thought bubble that says “SEIZE THE GAINS.” He is surrounded by small glass jars of natural pigments and a palette, with a sign on the table that reads “VEGAN DYES & CARBON NEUTRAL INKS ONLY.”
fuck. this shits getting good really fast. I had no clue. I was talking yesterday about how it wont be long till I can use AI to make Lethal weapon: Terminator (a movie where AI Mel Gibson and Danny Glover are trying to track down Sarah Conner and saver her from Arnold the terminator) But I had no idea how close we really are to that. Like a few years tops.
Anyone can pick up a paper and pencil. Art books are widely available in libraries, or for piracy online. Some communities have communal art events or clubs. Digital art and graphic design programs are all cracked online or open source. Hundreds of thousands of Youtube and Bilibili videos and tutorials. Your own imagination is also perfectly free to use. Famously no poor people have ever drawn or created any form of art, ever, in the history of humanity.
How is this a class issue? Are you saying poor people aren’t able to pick up a pencil and doodle for 15 minutes if they wanted to, or open photoshop or blender? Hiding behind the poor as an excuse is an insane defense for a corporate slop machine.
Instead of a poor trying to come up with a way to express themselves, they should instead type their thoughts into the capitalist machine and alienate themselves further from their humanity and self. No need to improve, no need to think, no need to interact with the world around you.
One of my colleagues teaches Art and English as a foreign language. She’s not even poor because we’re in a country that doesn’t shit on teachers, but even she uses generative AI to illustrate her slides and create grammar posters. She’s time-poor, and she’s not giving the school any labour for free making posters in her free time when she’s got a family life to live. Nobody cares if the capybara character on the poster has 5 or 4 toes. It’s not a maths poster. The students think it’s funny and we move on. No artists are losing work, because even without the AI option there’s no budget for decorating lesson slides or making posters to take home. Unless anyone wants to work for exposure. Can pay plenty in exposure.
And on the flip side, neither of us is using AI to replace artists in situations where we use artists. She still does her own personal art, and I just wrapped a Christmas gift for a valued friend that I paid another artist friend to create. Took her seven months because she’s also pressed for time, and the chats we’ve had over the creative process are one of my fondest memories for this year.
Is this a regional thing? Is it different in your country, wherever you are? I’ve got musician friends using AI to help make music videos and artist friends using AI to make music for their comic strip posts, and nobody’s losing any sleep over it. There’s some other variable and it’s not the AIs.
Please try and employ the dialectic. As always, lets work together on finding an avenue for progress.
While poor people might be gifted in creativity, they dont need to able to draw. using ai slop machine may even be able to help a person without arms to express themselves in pictures which only those learning to draw with their mouths or feet were able to before.
ML still firmly anti ai imo need to get their progress machine checked and reread left wing communism as the denial of a tool for the working class out of ideological reasons is ultraleftist insanity.
Its of course also reactionary, which makes it no better.
This does still not mean that we tell everyone to use chatgpt for therapy but there is room for nuance between the two.
The exception does not make the rule. How may people with no arms do you think there are relative to the population of the globe? They also don’t need to draw if they don’t want to. They can write, using voice to text, they can use a specialized mouse to create 3D animations, they can sing, they can express themselves beyond a slop machine. Hiding behind the poor and amputees is disgusting.
I believe AI is perfectly dialectical in regard to medical research for example, but not in automating self-expression. All that will do is lead to the “sameification” of human culture.
I am not personally attacking anyone nor being reactionary. What was the personal attack? Claiming that opportunistically using amputees as shields is disingenuous as a defense?
Honestly you could probably make do with half a broken pencil and the back of a receipt. A bunch of digital art programs are also free or easy to pirate.
Everyone starts somewhere too, and I don’t think anyone would expect a beginner’s skill would stay at that level for very long.
I don’t think that I could create a Rembrandt level comic but I’ve been slowly learning to draw and going from what you created to even just something a little better is a lot of fun.
I’m not taking the piss though, minimalist images like that are genuinely funny. Plus knowing that someone took five minutes to open up MS paint and make that makes the image more endearing in a way? Like the person obviously cares and they’re trying their best to show it with the skills they have. Even making something silly like that requires creativity.
You’re kind of doing the same thing here that anarchists do where you make the implicit assumption that everyone else thinks the way you do. Some people enjoy drawing, and investing time in developing this skill. Some people enjoy the aesthetic of poorly drawn memes, absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, it’s not for everyone, and other people like different things. The niche you’re advocating for exists, and nobody will take that away from you. Nobody will stop you from drawing as many silly memes as you want to draw. But imagine how obnoxious it would be if every time you posted one of these silly memes, then somebody would inevitably sealoion to moan how it’s not the type of aesthetic that appeals to them and therefore nobody is allowed to enjoy it.
Psychpost: this “thinking everyone thinks what you do” often stems from a lack of a theory of mind which is part of the neurodivergent package. Many autistics suffer from this, such as i. This means, in my mind, everyone is able to do what i do, will like what i like, will think what i think, at least instinctively. Consciously, of course, i know that this isnt the case but i have to stop a second and remind myself every time. I think we need to remember that this can be the case and might even be the reason for many fights. For myself it was theory that helped me overcome the resulting reactionary stupidity and ultraleftism (i actually used to be an anarchist because of exactly that crap). One of the most important pieces of theory to thoroughly stamp that out was left wing communism by lenin.
Absolutely, and I’d argue this is a fairly common phenomenon with people in general. It’s easy to get lazy and start using yourself as the template for how people think. This is precisely why we need to actively work on developing empathy to step outside our own shoes and try to see things from a different perspective. When somebody has a genuine disagreement with you, as opposed to just trolling to get a rise out of you, it’s always important to understand where they’re coming from first before trying to convince them of anything.
I don’t think anyone would expect a beginner’s skill would stay at that level for very long.
I tried drawing for a very long time. I tried it on paper, for years. I tried it on computer, with gimp, with krita, with a graphics tablet (good for playing emulated professor layton too). But I wasn’t even getting close to stuff like the illustrations on ccg cards. I tried rendering. Vertices, bezier curves, even raymarching. I tried AI diffusion.
But only raymarching and AI diffusion allowed me to create results that were close to what I had imagined.
Have you finished both trilogies yet? My favorite out of them all is Unwound/Lost Future. The ending still puts a lump in my throat even on repeat playthroughs.
My favorite is (by far) the ace attorney crossover. So far even, that I couldn’t finish the next game I tried, as, whenever I picked it up, I thought “I’d rather play the crossover right now”
So I’ve only finished the first trilogy, town of wonders, and the crossover.
I love the crossover too. It’s my favorite ace attorney game because of how it’s structured. The rest of the franchise just kinda aimlessly meanders for the first few trials before patching together something thematic for the final case. I prefer how this one has a clear goal from the outset and it’s funny how witnesses openly conspire in court.
As for the rest of the Layton games, I’d say that the second trilogy is worse than the first so you’ll probably have a hard time finishing them. And don’t bother with katrielle’s mystery journey because that’s the worst of them all by a landslide. I heard that her anime’s ok though, but I’m not gonna watch it to verify.
Don’t you know? Only the finest hand crafted memes printed on virgin linen parchment, drawn with natural carbon neutral inks and colored with vegan dyes can win over the working classes.
Thats fucking awesome. How much prompt wiggling did that take?
haha here’s the prompt: A candid photograph of an elderly artisan with a focused expression, wearing a tweed apron in a cluttered studio, meticulously using a fine-tipped brush to paint a crudely drawn meme on a large piece of textured linen parchment. The meme shows a muscular figure with the face of Lenin wearing a backwards cap, labeled “CHAD LENIN” in blocky letters, next to a thought bubble that says “SEIZE THE GAINS.” He is surrounded by small glass jars of natural pigments and a palette, with a sign on the table that reads “VEGAN DYES & CARBON NEUTRAL INKS ONLY.”
But how many tries did it take?
first shot with nanobanana believe it or not
fuck. this shits getting good really fast. I had no clue. I was talking yesterday about how it wont be long till I can use AI to make Lethal weapon: Terminator (a movie where AI Mel Gibson and Danny Glover are trying to track down Sarah Conner and saver her from Arnold the terminator) But I had no idea how close we really are to that. Like a few years tops.
Haha, that’s totally gonna be doable sooner than later. Comfyui is starting to have video workflows using wan now https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/video/wan/wan2_2
huh, that’s the best text i’ve seen yet from an llm, neat
It’s really wild how much they’re improving every few months
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This, unironically! If we didn’t set some standards, then even poor people could do it! 🧐
Anyone can pick up a paper and pencil. Art books are widely available in libraries, or for piracy online. Some communities have communal art events or clubs. Digital art and graphic design programs are all cracked online or open source. Hundreds of thousands of Youtube and Bilibili videos and tutorials. Your own imagination is also perfectly free to use. Famously no poor people have ever drawn or created any form of art, ever, in the history of humanity.
How is this a class issue? Are you saying poor people aren’t able to pick up a pencil and doodle for 15 minutes if they wanted to, or open photoshop or blender? Hiding behind the poor as an excuse is an insane defense for a corporate slop machine.
Instead of a poor trying to come up with a way to express themselves, they should instead type their thoughts into the capitalist machine and alienate themselves further from their humanity and self. No need to improve, no need to think, no need to interact with the world around you.
One of my colleagues teaches Art and English as a foreign language. She’s not even poor because we’re in a country that doesn’t shit on teachers, but even she uses generative AI to illustrate her slides and create grammar posters. She’s time-poor, and she’s not giving the school any labour for free making posters in her free time when she’s got a family life to live. Nobody cares if the capybara character on the poster has 5 or 4 toes. It’s not a maths poster. The students think it’s funny and we move on. No artists are losing work, because even without the AI option there’s no budget for decorating lesson slides or making posters to take home. Unless anyone wants to work for exposure. Can pay plenty in exposure.
And on the flip side, neither of us is using AI to replace artists in situations where we use artists. She still does her own personal art, and I just wrapped a Christmas gift for a valued friend that I paid another artist friend to create. Took her seven months because she’s also pressed for time, and the chats we’ve had over the creative process are one of my fondest memories for this year.
Is this a regional thing? Is it different in your country, wherever you are? I’ve got musician friends using AI to help make music videos and artist friends using AI to make music for their comic strip posts, and nobody’s losing any sleep over it. There’s some other variable and it’s not the AIs.
Please try and employ the dialectic. As always, lets work together on finding an avenue for progress.
While poor people might be gifted in creativity, they dont need to able to draw. using ai slop machine may even be able to help a person without arms to express themselves in pictures which only those learning to draw with their mouths or feet were able to before.
ML still firmly anti ai imo need to get their progress machine checked and reread left wing communism as the denial of a tool for the working class out of ideological reasons is ultraleftist insanity.
Its of course also reactionary, which makes it no better.
This does still not mean that we tell everyone to use chatgpt for therapy but there is room for nuance between the two.
The exception does not make the rule. How may people with no arms do you think there are relative to the population of the globe? They also don’t need to draw if they don’t want to. They can write, using voice to text, they can use a specialized mouse to create 3D animations, they can sing, they can express themselves beyond a slop machine. Hiding behind the poor and amputees is disgusting.
I believe AI is perfectly dialectical in regard to medical research for example, but not in automating self-expression. All that will do is lead to the “sameification” of human culture.
You’re being highly reactionary and are personally attacking a comrade. Do better.
I am not personally attacking anyone nor being reactionary. What was the personal attack? Claiming that opportunistically using amputees as shields is disingenuous as a defense?
Honestly you could probably make do with half a broken pencil and the back of a receipt. A bunch of digital art programs are also free or easy to pirate.
maybe you could make do but I feel like many people would come up with something like this and it isn’t very inspiring.
Oof nice drawing! Unless it is ai too…
That goes hard honestly, I love that
Everyone starts somewhere too, and I don’t think anyone would expect a beginner’s skill would stay at that level for very long.
I don’t think that I could create a Rembrandt level comic but I’ve been slowly learning to draw and going from what you created to even just something a little better is a lot of fun.
I’m not taking the piss though, minimalist images like that are genuinely funny. Plus knowing that someone took five minutes to open up MS paint and make that makes the image more endearing in a way? Like the person obviously cares and they’re trying their best to show it with the skills they have. Even making something silly like that requires creativity.
You’re kind of doing the same thing here that anarchists do where you make the implicit assumption that everyone else thinks the way you do. Some people enjoy drawing, and investing time in developing this skill. Some people enjoy the aesthetic of poorly drawn memes, absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, it’s not for everyone, and other people like different things. The niche you’re advocating for exists, and nobody will take that away from you. Nobody will stop you from drawing as many silly memes as you want to draw. But imagine how obnoxious it would be if every time you posted one of these silly memes, then somebody would inevitably sealoion to moan how it’s not the type of aesthetic that appeals to them and therefore nobody is allowed to enjoy it.
Psychpost: this “thinking everyone thinks what you do” often stems from a lack of a theory of mind which is part of the neurodivergent package. Many autistics suffer from this, such as i. This means, in my mind, everyone is able to do what i do, will like what i like, will think what i think, at least instinctively. Consciously, of course, i know that this isnt the case but i have to stop a second and remind myself every time. I think we need to remember that this can be the case and might even be the reason for many fights. For myself it was theory that helped me overcome the resulting reactionary stupidity and ultraleftism (i actually used to be an anarchist because of exactly that crap). One of the most important pieces of theory to thoroughly stamp that out was left wing communism by lenin.
Absolutely, and I’d argue this is a fairly common phenomenon with people in general. It’s easy to get lazy and start using yourself as the template for how people think. This is precisely why we need to actively work on developing empathy to step outside our own shoes and try to see things from a different perspective. When somebody has a genuine disagreement with you, as opposed to just trolling to get a rise out of you, it’s always important to understand where they’re coming from first before trying to convince them of anything.
I used an LLM to make it.
🤣
Lmaooo
That cool! At least it wasn’t in the regular slop style!
That also doesn’t negate anything I said lmao, but oh no! You got me! I got debatebroed!
Would have been quicker just opening ms paint
With or without starting windows?
I tried drawing for a very long time. I tried it on paper, for years. I tried it on computer, with gimp, with krita, with a graphics tablet (good for playing emulated professor layton too). But I wasn’t even getting close to stuff like the illustrations on ccg cards. I tried rendering. Vertices, bezier curves, even raymarching. I tried AI diffusion.
But only raymarching and AI diffusion allowed me to create results that were close to what I had imagined.
Have you finished both trilogies yet? My favorite out of them all is Unwound/Lost Future. The ending still puts a lump in my throat even on repeat playthroughs.
My favorite is (by far) the ace attorney crossover. So far even, that I couldn’t finish the next game I tried, as, whenever I picked it up, I thought “I’d rather play the crossover right now”
So I’ve only finished the first trilogy, town of wonders, and the crossover.
I love the crossover too. It’s my favorite ace attorney game because of how it’s structured. The rest of the franchise just kinda aimlessly meanders for the first few trials before patching together something thematic for the final case. I prefer how this one has a clear goal from the outset and it’s funny how witnesses openly conspire in court.
As for the rest of the Layton games, I’d say that the second trilogy is worse than the first so you’ll probably have a hard time finishing them. And don’t bother with katrielle’s mystery journey because that’s the worst of them all by a landslide. I heard that her anime’s ok though, but I’m not gonna watch it to verify.