Sounds like they’re thinking of implementing the “Wenger Rule” i.e instead of the attacker needing to be fully behind the defender to stay onside he can stay onside if he’s all but fully in front of the defender.

The idea is to give more an advantage to the attacker and disallow less goals.

To me it makes absolutely no sense, and I don’t understand how people buy into this kind of rule change not understanding that all it does is move the boundary for offside.

Those people who incessantly complain about “toenail calls” would still be whining with this new rule as an attacker has his heel keeping him onside by a cm.

The other thing I see with it, is it only makes it worse for an attacker to stay onside. Why? Because, with the current rule he can look down the line to time his run perfectly. With the new rule change, you can’t see what’s behind you and where your body is in relation to the defenders, so it’s only going to be more frustrating and luck based at times from the attacker’s perspective.

All in all, I don’t really see the point of this rule change. All it serves to do is move the margin slightly while potentially making things more confusing.

The current rule is perfectly fine. What we really need is automated offsides. We have the same concept when it comes to goal line calls and no one has an issue with the close calls there because they’re called correctly 99.99% of the time, so what’s the issue with having the same for offline calls? Get the technology in now and be done with it.

  • Shares_44@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    its not offside if they is no ‘daylight’ between the defender and the attacker

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    10 months ago

    I’d implement thicker lines for the var to draw, then if either of the lines between attacker and defender touch/overlap its onside. If there is a gap, then it’s offside.

  • Daver7692@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I think the rule is fine as it is.

    Any introduction of “daylight” or any other sort of muddying of the water will lead to more issues than it would fix.

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      10 months ago

      the rule is actually one of the more clear ones in football: if any part of your body that can legally play the ball is past the last defender when the ball is played, then you are offside

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        10 months ago

        I think they should make it such that they reference the last part of the defender that can legally play the ball. Defender’s hands can play attackers onside but they can’t use them to defend.

  • thestigREVENGE@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I’d the tech is there I’d like to see center of mass offsides. As it stands though, the Muppets in VAR are having a tough time as it is determining toenail offsides with the tech we have.

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    10 months ago

    I swear the old rule when I was a kid was benefit of the doubt to the attacker.

    So this seems a more refined version of that?

  • Jeffo1991@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The new rule will be much better. You will see far fewer offsides and therefore far less 6 minute VAR checks to see if someone has gained no advantage by being 1cm offside.

    In my opinion, I reckon people are far more often offside under the current rules due to having to time a run to peefection, I’m certain you will see fewer issues with the new rule as an attacking player knows they just need to be roughly level with the defender to not be offside.

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    10 months ago

    The biggest problem for me is that if we’re doing VAR for offsides then they need to have like a 5cm rule. As the amount of movement typically possible between frames is 5cm. And so that’s as precise as we can reasonably be. If someone is less than 5cm offsides then we don’t know if they were actually offisides or not. Especially in cases where the player was sprinting into space. Like the Garnacho goal ruled out earlier this season, it’s impossible to know if he was off. It was way too tight, goal was ruled on by on field officials then ruled off by a margin of error that we can’t even accurately measure. This also makes it so that we don’t have to wait as long for tight calls. And if it’s close on that 5cm region, just go with on field decision. It will never be perfect but looking to rule out goals all the time by over analyzing every little thing for 5 minutes is dumb.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t like rules that make it more difficult to be a ref. This will (probably) work for top levels, but for 7th division and such that don’t even have linesmen, it will be very difficult to ref properly.

    It’s difficult enough to see if someone is in front of another from behind across the field, but at least now it’s a yes or no question.

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    10 months ago

    Arsene Wenger was an outstanding manager, but most of his rule ideas are absolutely woeful. He wanted to get rid of throw ins too at one point. The new rule will bring even more issues that the current one

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    10 months ago

    Wenger is a muppet.

    Rule will still result in arguing over where the line is drawn.

    Only thing that will change is defences won’t play an offside trap and sit deeper.

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    10 months ago

    It’s probably difficult to implement, but it would be nice if having scored with your left foot, you weren’t given offside because of your shoulder.

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    10 months ago

    Were I able to wave a magic wand i’d determine offside by the position of their feet rather than entire body. You could put sensors in the boots or something.