despite being owned by a state with which the UK has many interests economically will it be one of the cases that might go unpunished?
If the FA have balls. I doubt it tho, too much money is involved.
No chance at all
If there is justice in the world, yes.
But we know the answer to that one.
Lmao what “justice” city haven’t been proven guilty of anything yet your “justice” is just the team you no like doing worse.
That’s embarrassing
Imagine being this guy.
Insane levels of delusion
Personally, no
If anything comes out of the city investigation, will be a very big fine and a possible half a year or 1 year transfer ban.
They ain’t getting a points deduction. They won’t be chucked down the leagues.
Ah yes big fine paid through shady revenue
Funny at Juve. If you think there was alot of emphasis on Board of directors getting 2 year bans for inflation of player values and such. So a 15 point ban here an there. UEFA competition bans. People will be disappointed when City don’t end up in the Championship or League 2. There is so many token charges they can give Man City. 2 year sponsors ban. All sorts of garbage.
The consequences of this would be Newcastle just using city’s blueprint & for the next 20 years the premiership would be the same 2 horse race. I think it’s going to be a pivotal moment for the Prem & they either stand up to the oil clubs now or risk fans leaving in their droves.
What blueprint? Spend money? Do you think Newcastle have their own Pep?
Also, would you have made that statement if the Qatari guy had bought United?
Paying refs, spending more than what the club earns (no Newcastle you don’t have money).
Who pays refs? Did Spurs pay refs when Brighton was robbed last season? There are tonnes of such scenarios that have nothing to do with City
Why aren’t they getting a points deduction? If guilty it’ll be fairly easy to prove they gained a sporting advantage which would result in a sporting sanction according to the Everton precedent.
If the punishment is only a fine, then it’s only against the rules for poorer clubs
Why ?
Before the Everton decision I would of been inclined to agree with you but now I’m not so sure.
Who am I kidding, it’s a transfer ban at best lol
And a 4 week transfer ban at most. Starting in October…
If they don’t get a points deduction, and a hefty one at that, I think Everton will have something to say. Just a suspicion.
The difference is that the Everton charges are to do with huge amounts of money being lost (with the rules designed to prevent against clubs going bankrupt). City are on the opposite end of the spectrum - their earnings are too high (as in, nobody believes their sponsorship deals are reflective of the fair market value).
It’s the difference between financial doping and financial mismanagement. City are in no danger of going bankrupt, they’re just hiding the fact that they’re pumping money into the club in a way that gives them an unfair advantage.
Everton can say all they want they are not in charge of the investigation.
At the very best, IMO they’ll get a 30 point deduction. Which they won’t care about in the slightest.
At worse, they’ll finish outside of any Europe and I doubt even that’ll happen, they’ll probably still make Conference League.
But they’ll take one year of essentially not challenging for the title in exchange for flippantly breaking the rules to get where they are.
they just said in the Everton independent commission document that fines aren’t sufficient when the owners are wealthy - punishment will be sporting for infringements by rich clubs
Ah, but everton is actually a different club. They wouldn’t do anything to hurt their favorite little golden child. If that were the case they would have done it years ago
They wouldn’t do anything to hurt their favorite little golden child
lol wat. Then why charge City at all after they were wholly exonerated by CAS? The charges have already done plenty of damage because your average know-nothing red club fan presumes guilt from the outset which the media happily tap into.
They got off cos it was too long in the past. The PL don’t have such rules.
They got off cos it was too long in the past
No, that’s the bullshit narrative that is pushed on here and certain sections of the media. The truth is there was no evidence:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fnnkd2u49xw0b1.jpg
That’s directly from the CAS judgement which I’m sure you’ve already read(lol)
They weren’t “exonerated by CAS”. They got off on a technicality because UEFA filed the charges too late under their own rules.
Not sure why downvoted, it’s literally the truth lol
That was for one £8 million sponsorship. Shocking to be this confident and wrong when the evidence is publicly available
As I replied to the other bullshitter:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fnnkd2u49xw0b1.jpgIn my book “no evidence” = exonerated
Might want to do the smallest bit of research next time before confidently being completely wrong. It will help you not look like a complete tit.
It’s all about pressure from both sides. Can the public threaten the sanctity of the money-making machine enough, or is a sovereign ruler too imposing? The two sides may discuss where the threshold is… at some point, I’d guess, it’s just worth accepting a real hit.
Surely they just wouldn’t press charges in the first place then ? I don’t get this logic the FA are doing years of investigation when that have no intention of following up ?
Watch them revert on this when they have to do something to City
Could you link that document? Rather interested what it said
Wait, it says a loss up to to 15 mil is largely forgiven but we only lost 4.5 Mill more and lose 10 points?😂
Everton had a loss of 300mil with 180mil or something deducted.
Losses up to £105m over three years are forgiven (as long as you haven’t been in the championship and there is owner funding)
The amounts you’re seeing are the amounts over that threshold - the PL says you’re roughly £20m over it, Everton says they’re just under £10m over it
But that’s £115m - £135m losses over three years
Yeah my mistake I misread it. We had losses of 124.5 mil. 20 mil extra is nothing considering how much players cost nowadays.
A transfer ban is a sporting infringement.
How do they determine who’s rich and who’s not when every owner of a Premier League club is rich?
Yep basically everyone except Brentford and Nottingham Forest
Money is unlimited when it comes to the saudis. They won’t give a shit about a £100m fine and they’ll continue business as usual.
you heard that city group, up the bribes!
Should be a transfer ban for every year they cheated.
I agree they will get a fine that they can afford, unsure about the transfer ban, bit I reckon they will get a small points deduction. One that won’t matter for relegation but might affect a title run.
A fine for financial doping for 10 years is so laughable you can’t do that
will be a very big fine
Infinite money - big fine = infinite money
It’s man city cmon. Of course nothing will be done about it. I mean hell just look at the favoritism in the league with VAR
Delusional
Delusional
Delusional
The govt won’t allow the prem to upset the UAE, city will probably get Everton’s deducted 10 points added on
Except the Prem were pressured into this by the Government who were threatening oversight.
It won’t happen they can’t make baldy mad
Possibly yes.
But their lawyers will appeal and string this out, so that there is no punishment.
Not going to happen, u need an FA with ball of steels and they won’t want to ruin the image of the EPL with that.
Plus City will likely send all the lawyers and suits they can forever to push this away so don’t think the FA will want to get into that.
Honestly they will at most get a small fine
Taking all of their titles away isn’t going to remove all of the euphoria their fans enjoyed for a decade, nor the sponsorship deals that make them the richest club in the world, nor the infrastructure they’ve set up not only at their ground and training facility, but also their 10 feeder clubs that benefit them from around the globe.
It’s sickening seeing them continue to be allowed to enjoy the fruits of their rule breaking, all in the knowledge that there is no punishment that can really hurt them.
Taking the titles away means nothing. Fining them means nothing. A transfer ban means nothing.
Even a 50 point deduction wouldn’t guarantee their relegation.
Unless they are demoted to the 7th division or something similar then justice will not have been done.
The premier league doesn’t have the power to send them to the 7th division thanks to being a breakaway league. They can relegate them, or they can expel them from the premier league.
If they choose to expel them then Man City would have to apply to the EFL to join that league system (which the EFL would almost certainly accept due to the revenue boost they’d see) and at that point the EFL would decide if they join either the Champ, Lg1 or Lg2.
If by some magic the EFL also rejected them, then they would have to apply to whatever governing body runs the two vanarama tiers or even lower.
Would just love you see it. Get them to the Vanorama. Obviously they’ll just be fined about £50m and will just laugh it off though.
Juventus got that for straight-up match-fixing. I can see City getting more than a slap on the wrist if proven guilty but expulsion sounds more than unlikely.
If that’s the case, then Chelsea will be right behind them !
Ahaha no we arent
Well I mean, as a City fan, you kinda will be right behind us. It’s all financial breaches. Let’s not let Liverpool, Man United and Arsenal fans try and bring us down though. Even if they are all such wonderful utopia clubs who have never done anything wrong.
(I’ll be one of the Manchester city fans who actually takes this matter a bit seriously and say)
With how inconsistent the premier league is in terms of punishment and penalties (in every sense of the word😂😂)
There’s just about a possibility of anything happening, it can range from a short club statement and fine, to league demotion like with other clubs
If we actually do get found guilty, of course
Oh city are guilty alright
No it would destroy the integrity of the premier league , and hurt the product
The integrity was compromised when they broke the rules in the first place.
I don’t agree with stripping the titles, but expulsion is the only fitting punishment.
Nope, the arabs gonna shower FA with cash
There is probably some political connections that haven’t been discovered or exposed yet that will shield them
