• guy@piefed.social
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    24 hours ago

    You do realize that Annie Lööf hasn’t been a politician since 2023 because of people like you?

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      3 hours ago

      She left politics after almost being assassinated by a nazi murderer and after years of receiving threats and very graphic, targeted hate speech.

      Annie Lööf herself, as a liberal, would not have considered it a problem that people vocalized their frustration with politics or calling politicians ”fucking dumb”.

      You are intentionally sabotaging public discourse and I can’t understand why.

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        3 hours ago

        The issue is normalisation of hate against politicians, which is the end becomes nazi assassinations. It starts with people, often online, creating a climate where personal attacks are okay, then it step by step increases in intensity to become calls for violence and so on.

        You are intentionally sabotaging public discourse

        Absolutely not. There’s a difference between calling politicians “fucking dumb” and criticizing policy. If you can’t understand that I can’t help you.

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          It has never not been normal for people eho are frustrated to call people they disagree with dumb. Insistence to the contrary is total fiction. Democracy isn’t based in perfect harmony and civility – the opposite, in fact. Your false equivalence between OP not being perfectly nice and civil with the absolute worst of hateful shit and threats is not helpful.

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            2 hours ago

            And no one has made such claims. I’m afraid that you are completely missing the point. I don’t understand if it is with intent or not but it is not helpful for the debate.

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              1 hour ago

              No, it’s perfectly clear your point is to police ”bad speech” from the slippery slope of bad tone. I don’t fully disagree with you, by the way, but your accusation against OP, for writing something rather mild, is ridiculous. Free speech isn’t a decluttering exercise , removing bad speech doesn’t suddenly reveal a hidden wealth of good speech.

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      8 hours ago

      Oh nooo, little miss Ayn Rand fangirl stopped working in politics. Her mandate lasted nearly twenty fucking years, she had plenty of time as a politician.

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        3 hours ago

        twenty fucking years

        How is that relevant? There’s no time limit on being a politician.

        And it’s a huge problem if politicians feel that they have to cease their engagement because of fuckfaces spreading hate and threats against them. If you downplay the issue you’re either not a fan of democracy or can’t see the wider implications.