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    3 days ago

    I hate how the world still has a medieval mindset.

    80 Venezuelans were murdered to safely extract Maduro.

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      And you think adding american troops to that death toll would have been better? For shame!

      Just because ice is doing ethnic purity policing with death camps doesn’t mean the Wehrmacht is dirty!

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      Exactly. Trump just used the US military, without authorization from Congress, to break international law, abduct a foreign head of state, and murder 80 innocent people.

      He’s committed treason, for at least the second time, in front of the entire world. The first person to capture or kill him will become incredibly rich and powerful, and no one will care that he’s gone.

      At this point I’d say it’s open season on anyone openly supporting him, or assisting him with his agenda.

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        The first person to capture or kill him will become incredibly rich and powerful, and no one will care that he’s gone.

        I’m so confused about this. Millions of people support everything he does even if it’s pedophilia but now magically you think that changed overnight?

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        Trumps actions are undeniably evil and insane, but calling Maduro’s military (which performed a coup after he lost the election) innocent is naive to the point of stupidity.

        Yes I recognize that there were also civilian casualties which is undeniably evil and insane as well.

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      80 Venezuelans were murdered to safely extract Maduro.

      Don’t worry. Hollywood will soon start working on a movie about how sad this made the Americans who murdered them.

    • I was thinking about that.

      Maybe Trumps lawyers manage to successfully argue their way into the capture being legal because Maduro was not a recognized head of state.

      But how the fuck do you justify 80 dead to reach that goal? Where in international law says that’s allowed? And why is nobody seemingly asking that question?

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    This post is disinformation with an editorialized post title. Here is the actual source: https://www.semafor.com/article/01/03/2026/new-york-times-washington-post-held-off-on-reporting-venezuela-raid

    The decisions in the New York and Washington newsrooms to maintain official secrecy is in keeping with longstanding American journalistic traditions — even at a moment of unprecedented mutual hostility between the American president and a legacy media that continues to dominate national security reporting.

    Tl;dr: the only thing that’s surprising is that they kept this tradition even with Trump’s attacks on them. whatever your feelings on the topic this behavior is not our of the ordinary.

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      Thanks for the link.


      Fediverse vs Disinformaiton

      OP posts a blue checkmark Twitter screenshot.

      It’s not a tabloid source, at least. Still, I think this community specifically should have a higher sourcing standard.

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        I notice that a lot of mods on the fediverse sadly carry over the reddit tradition of doing the bare minimum amount of actual moderating.

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          I saw one mod respond in a thread like this. They expressed that the post’s alignment/content was more important than sourcing.

          Granted, that’s a sample size of one; I think most mods aren’t like that. Still, a sentiment bordering on ‘misinformation is fine as long as its the right kind’ is horrifying to me. It sums up everything wrong with the world’s information ecosystem.

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            Oof, I wouldn’t want that in any community, but a community specifically about disinformation is particularly disturbing. I reported this thread to the mods, if it’s not removed shortly I guess I’ll be reporting it to my instance admins for removal too.

  • grte@lemmy.ca
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    Billionaire owned media acts as a legitimization machine for neoliberal governments because those governments work for capital first and foremost.

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      Yep. The interesting thing about propaganda is that it doesn’t even need to openly agree with the current regime.

      You can have superficially critical media, who none the less support the regime they criticise through things like framing, the agenda setting effect, or promoting apathy/hopelessness to suppress voter turn out.

      With that last thing in mind, I should say that Americans are not fucked, that the result of the next election is not a foregone conclusion, and that they should vote… but even I am having trouble believing it and not falling into cynicism or nihilism.

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        The best thing that can be said about media that’s “critical” of MAGA these days is that’s it’s functioning as entertainment for people who will ultimately do nothing. All this hand-wringing and wondering if Trump is evil or not does his bidding…puts people to sleep. We’re long past the point where civilized people should have revolted.

        Nah, we’re fucked. The best we can hope for is a Democratic “landslide”…where a bunch of centre-right capitalists get rewarded for waiting around doing nothing. They’ll prove to be corrupt, feckless and ineffective…because they are…and whatever MAGA morphs into will be acting like Stalin was in charge and we’ll get MAGA 3.0. We’re very far off from a proper revolution…which is necessary to stop this constant slide into unrestricted capitalism.

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    “Brave whistleblower” should have picked less neoliberal / right wing papers to leak to if that’s the case. Like, for anyone else thinking of doing something like this, leak to smaller outlets that are willing to violate journalistic norms (and risk pissing off the government) and also to the big guys. Then when the smaller outlets report on it, the bigger papers are forced to move or miss the story.

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      Send to BBC, Al Jazera, RT and the major US outlets.

      Make sure they all know the others got the info also.

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      Move or miss the story? The small outlets are covering all the shit in the epstein files while msm ignores it entirely. This isn’t the 50s where “missing the scoop” matters, they pick and choose what they want to report and when.

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    I don’t think I’d ever go this route if I had something to leak now. The only chance of getting something in the news would be to mass leak it to multiple major substack investigative journalists, individual TV and online news shows, and foreign news bureaus that aren’t directly aligned with the US. There are plenty of people in those smaller and foreign outlets who’d risk their reputation/legal consequences publishing the biggest story of their career.

    edit: Especially if they know it’s a mass email where anyone else could break the story first.

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      Yeah we would probably know if the guy who said he worked for Epstein was telling the truth by now if these guys would stop sending this stuff over to their propaganda department.

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    Im highly skeptical there was a whistle blower and I’m not sure why anyone is hopeful like that

    More likely is the administration just coordinated with the news orgs and they all willingly went along with it

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    There’s a difference between complicite and state-run media.

    They only report on that which their handlers instruct them to report.

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    It’s the same people.

    The people that direct our “parties” with their “donations” own the vast majority of the media. They’re not going to investigate the government anymore or report the news, we’re way beyond that.

    Next on FOX, Brittany Spears said something mean about the President! A four person panel of celebrities will discuss at eleven.