Thou shalt no use amdvlk for gaming where ever possible.

At a guess, I’d say that’s your problem.

Are you running at least the 535 branch of drivers? CS2 will crash under the 525 branch of drivers.

Mint doesn’t really appear to be LTS anymore. It’s still running a 5.x kernel as opposed to the 6.2 kernel supported by actual LTS releases.

There is if you need newer kernels to support newer features is is regularly the case.

Well everything’s running swimmingly well here. Whatever ‘features’ I’m missing out on, I can assure you I’m certainly not getting the feeling I’m missing out anything overly important.

Yeah… I’m not really sure what you think this means.Valve does this to simply have a standard to build against. Thats it.

Which is precisely the point. Officially, Steam is only built for Ubuntu LTS, that’s your ‘standard’. Should you choose to run Steam under any other distro, don’t look to valve for support as you may not get the support you’re after.

Which leads us to your next point:

nor has Valve EVER turned anyone away from support for running a non Ubuntu/LTS distro.

Lets take a look at the ArchWiki under the heading of Steam, what’s the opening paragraph?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/steam

I’ll quote it for you, bearing in mind this is from the Arch devs themselves:

Note: Steam for Linux only supports Ubuntu LTS.[1] Thus, do not turn to Valve for support for issues with Steam on Arch Linux.

Glad that’s settled. Moving on:

Cool, so by your logic I’d only have to wait 1 year for my 4TB NVME to work instead of using it right now like I am.

And yet, the irony is that this is a possibility that is by no means limited to LTS kernels (nor have I personally ever experienced it, my 4TB NVME drive ran fine out the box. As with everything under such a flexible OS, YMMV):

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=287649

Yeah, which Linux already provides. Hell Arch is more stable than Windows is by a long shot and its the “fast an loose” distro. Adding more stability on top doesn’t require an LTS kernel.

Undoubtedly, running the very latest kernels must be more stable than an LTS kernel. Because the very latest kernels never suffer from regressions that don’t show up in build testing. [Sarcasm off].

I’ve run a number of Arch based distro’s, and to say I never encountered an issue as a result of an update would be an outright lie. These days, I’m not prepared to ‘wing it and hope for the best’ based on a logical fallacy regarding LTS vs the very latest kernels. If you like Arch and it suits your particular use case, good for you - The beauty of Linux is freedom of choice, you use what works for yourself, and I’ll use what works for myself.

That and you claiming you need more stability is meaningless at best and you trying to project you’re (I believe the word you’re after is ‘your’) self on to others at worst.

Coming from the person trying to project their own experiences onto myself, this argument is circular at best.

Fun fact, running an arch distro right now and also never had that issue so not as magical and universal like you are suggesting but also people solved it with a launch option. Even for the people it happened too it seems like a decent trade so they can play games that run poorly otherwise.

Glad we confirmed that it did happen. Stating that it was a decent trade for everyone running Arch based distro’s would come back to that projection you were talking about earlier.

See what I did there?

Again, it makes it really clear that its not much of an issue when you are forced to create an alternate reality where it is one.

Yeah, this makes no sense. Essentially you’ve led discussion down the path of a strawman argument. To quote my original point, which still holds true, it’s evident just how much discussion has deviated as the result of one quite factual statement:

Bearing in mind that should you be running an LTS release, you’ll still have to add a PPA to run the very latest variant of Mesa.

There’s really nothing more to say.

Essentially, what’s happening here is what is psychologically known as a ‘backfire effect’. Essentially a situation whereby people often become counterintuitively more entrenched in their position when presented with data that conflicts with their beliefs based on firsthand experience, resulting in unnecessary rage as part of internet discussion.

So to avoid a situation whereby discussion continues to degrade, while neither person is willing to abandon their beliefs based on their own first hand experiences, I’m not interested in discussing this any further.

As a tip: Never install using Nvidia’s .run script, always use your distro’s package manager.

Not meaning to have a dig, but downloading direct from Nvidia and using the .run script can result in important libraries being overwritten and totally hose your DE.

Just a handy pointer.

Most of the time all you need to add to steam launch options is:

PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1

Then go into the game and enable RT and/or DLSS. Both RT and DLSS work perfectly here.

“This time I’m raising a thumb for Nvidia. Good times,” Torvalds said

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/torvalds-gives-nvidia-software-thumbs-up-not-middle-finger/

Yep. Sadly at this point in time the 545’s are a bit of a disappointment.

Running a 2070S, I’ll be sticking with the 535’s until Nvidia get their act together regarding the 545’s under both X11 and Wayland. As under X11 running the 545’s, the desktop is a horrible low fps stutterfest. Roll back to the 535’s and the desktop is as smooth as room temperature butter.

I’m running X11, I’m tipping you’re running Wayland.

The flickering in games actually isn’t 100% Nvidia’s fault, it’s caused by a lack of explicit sync and becomes apparent when your FPS dips below your monitor’s refresh rate.

Nvidia have submitted a merge request re: Explicit sync, the Wayland devs are just taking their time implementing it.

Same here. However, the 545’s are still beta and feature release drivers - They aren’t production stable drivers.

I can game under the 545’s no worries, everything works fine - However the desktop experience is basically unusable at a measly 35fps.

Why can’t you run the 535’s?

The 535’s are running fine here. Being the latest feature release, it’s expected that the 545’s won’t exactly be trouble free.

Add the PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

Commands in terminal as follows:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

sudo apt update

sudo apt install nvidia-driver-545

Keep in mind that the 545’s aren’t without issues.

You can roll back to the 535’s by entering:

sudo apt install nvidia-driver-535

The current production branch release is: 535.129.03.

The current ‘new feature branch’ release is: 545.29.02.

The current beta release is: 545.23.06.

Therefore, the current ‘stable’ driver is: 535.129.03.

And no mention of resolving the issue whereby your desktop renders at ~35fps…

PopOS! uses Gnome, which doesn’t support DRM leasing by default under Wayland, which VR needs in order to function.

See here:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/18A4-1E10-8A94-3DDA

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Notably, Gnome Wayland, the default desktop environment for Ubuntu, is not supported as it does not support DRM leasing. Users using Gnome Wayland will need to switch to an alternative window manager/compositor in order to use SteamVR.

PopOS! uses Gnome, which doesn’t support DRM leasing by default under Wayland, which VR needs in order to function.

See here:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/18A4-1E10-8A94-3DDA

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Notably, Gnome Wayland, the default desktop environment for Ubuntu, is not supported as it does not support DRM leasing. Users using Gnome Wayland will need to switch to an alternative window manager/compositor in order to use SteamVR.

As others have stated: Matched multiple monitors are fine, mismatched multiple monitors is somewhat of an issue.

I run Nvidia hardware/drivers, therefore all OGL/Vulkan libraries are included as part of Nvidia’s driver package, therefore there really isn’t any pressing need to run the very latest kernel. Furthermore, LTS releases are the only desktop Linux operating systems officially supported by Steam:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/1114-3F74-0B8A-B784

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Important:Currently, Steam for Linux is only supported on the most recent version of Ubuntu LTS with the Unity, Gnome, or KDE desktops.

Furthermore, this PC is also my work PC, I perform the daily running of my business from this PC. Stability is important, and I have absolutely no problems gaming on this device - In fact: While Arch users were complaining recently that Valve native titles were failing to launch via Steam under Arch based distro’s, I was happily playing Valve native titles just fine.

No the downvotes are because of you creating a fictitious reality in order to make a point. If you need an unrealistic requirement to be portrayed as a fact of Linux in order for your argument to even exist then its a bad faith argument.

To quote my post above:

The problem regarding LTS releases is the fact that unless you add something like the kisak PPA, you’re going to be lagging somewhat in relation to Mesa releases compared to rolling release distro’s; making the argument that gaming bug fixes are resolved faster running AMD hardware under Linux somewhat moot.

Generally, under LTS releases, Mesa updates are made available every point release. Should an updated version of Mesa containing gaming bugfixes be released right ‘after’ a point release, There’s every chance you won’t see that updated version of Mesa until the next point release - Which would be around 6 months later than the updated version of Mesa was released.

There’s no bad faith argument there.