Have you solved it yet?

This is just some fetish shit.

Ain’t nothing wrong with someone educated enjoying being a pet

Bit weird to share it with the whole internet tho

Whats so what the fuck about this? Are you seriously saying you believe people smell the moment they’re out of the shower?

Are you saying people smell just from the brief amounts of heat moving from one climate controlled place to another?

Are you saying people smell before the by products that actually smell are produced by the bacteria that are abundant around sweaty regions?

This just seems like ignorance on your part.

Ill tell you what it isn’t: This.

Rude and demeaning text aimed at your customers absolutely does not help the problem.

They could try a probably still bad approach of saying the rooms are warm and so people might want to pay more attention to this.

They could have people just approach those who smell and point it out to them politely

They could have better air exchange to mitigate the problem when not caught.

There are so many options which arent this, because this simply does not work.

But you where completely fine in making that argument when it came to islam. Why is that?

This just literally makes no sense. You are so stuck with the initial irrelevant strawman you made that you’ve latched on to believing Im making some random argument that hasn’t been made and continues to be irrelevant because we are currently talking about the white supremacy takeover in the US, where christianity is the religion they’ve picked.

The groups you mentioned, the point of my post, most likely changed to christianity as they want to align with what white supremacy has choosen as the white supremacy religion.

Your example with arab supremacy makes no sense, because there is no arab supremacy in the US making islam their religion.

Its whataboutism where there isnt even the subject of the whatabout.

I’m talking about people that absolutely are not racist, they are some of the few in society that stood up to religious norms in a time when they where ostrasized for it. They where simply against religion and fought against it. I want them to fight the powers that be again.

If they arent racist, why the switch to religion? I truly don’t get what you’re trying to get at.

I’m just some powerless dipshit sitting on the sidelines, noting with increasing horror at the degree of fascism endemic in my own liberal base.

You are worse than powerless. You are actively fighting for the fascists with this nonsense rhetoric that encourages voter apathy and encourages people to be idealistic rather than pragmatic.

I help my neighbors when I can. I help strangers when I find them. I volunteer my time and money to keep the homeless out of harm’s way and to warn anyone nearby when I see some ICE thugs on the street.

And yet this is all sweeping the rain if you continue to push for voter apathy or options that give fascists the win.

Brother, what’s your plan? Clap harder? Wave your little foam finger and throw on another layer of liberal merch?

Or maybe you’re hoping to get by as a kapo long enough to see the other side of the regime?

I’ve stated what I think people should be doing and what I think they should have done before.

If democracy survives, they need to, at the top of their lungs, support the democratic neoliberal party they hate so much, and continue to support it through decades of meritocracy until through primaries, local politics and more, they’ve shifted them right, as every single time they lose, that is an opportunity for the non progressives in the DNC to shift further right, something naive people online simply refuse to understand.

People just don’t like it because its unfun, boring, and takes a long time, but that is the only practical way in a broken, slow system where for the types of changes they want to happen, you literally need progressives to have control over the party, the house, the senate with a super majority and the presidency.

Those are just the facts. Until then, your goals should be to keep the democrats in place to stop the house from being lit on fire.

You don’t have to like it, no one does. You just have to realize that that is factually how it is.

Right now though? We’re all fucked because you didn’t do that before (and because a large portion of normal folks kept treating politics as if it were just this separate thing they could compartmentalize and ignore, thinking the trump admin round 2 somehow wouldn’t be worse than 1). Right now, resistance is all you can do. Supporting the mayors, senators and governors who try to resist, protesting, protecting people from ICE through warning, scaring them off, etc.

Im not arguing about whether it is or isn’t. Im saying no sensible person thinks this is actually a solution and this is 100% a narcissism play.

Attribute responsibility. People need to take responsibility for their own decisions, and change them.

You’re just playing word salad here.

It’s still about attributing blame because you refuse to account for how people operate and how effective lobbying/propaganda groups are on regular people who aren’t as aware on any given topic as you are.

I’m not. I mention it in response to people’s attempts to claim it’s never their fault. It’s always someone else’s fault. That there’s nothing they can do, it’s always everyone else.

This is a made up strawman. No one is saying that here, and people aren’t typically saying that without a large amount of nuance and less absoluteness on this topic.

And society would be better off for that change anyways.

You say this like you’re making a point when instead you make it clear you udderly missed my point. The point was that its “technically” peoples choice, but it clearly isn’t with how heavy the lobbying is.

The hope was that this would moove your opinion and help you culture an appreciation for the extremely strong effects of propaganda and lobbying such that something people think is choice, is far less choice than they think.

Perhaps I’m milking this point now, but I really thought it persuede you to think more about how people who aren’t in your specific bubble think and are affected.

People who are in areas with public transit and refuse to use it because it’s a minor inconvenience are specifically who I’m talking about that with. And yes, people’s votes helped cause that change.

People’s votes after what though? People didn’t just randomly form these opinions.

People in Europe have completely different opinions in general, and you know what the major factor is? A lack of the massive inertial propaganda that the US has had. Did you check out my link? I encourage you to watch it.

It’s just not as simple as you make it out to be.

I’m sure there are. I know there are. Every year I strive to improve. To consume less. To eat less meat. To bike and rid myself of the car I drove for far too long. Improvement takes time. It’s not a one second thing, it takes decades of effort. But it makes a difference, one little step, one person at a time, makes a difference. However, I can be sure I’m actually trying.

It sure does, now how can you say all that, but miss my point entirely that there could be someone putting the exact same amount of effort into being a better person yet not have their issues align with yours on this at all?

Do you not see why policy is the major way to change their habits?

No rain drop thinks it caused the flood. Every, single, bit matters.

You aren’t arguing against me. You just aren’t reading my points at all.

A response needs to come from all sides

That is literally impossible for the very same reasons that you said “I’m sure there are. I know there are.” above. If you can’t, how the hell are you expecting other people to for the issues you find most important?

You can’t solve it by only focusing on companies.

Quite frankly, you absolutely could. If the propaganda influencing consumer choices was stopped, you’d have a good enough solution.

Manufacturers would be making smaller vehicles due to regulations, people couldn’t choose monstrosities, roads would get slimmer in new development, public transportation would be built better.

Its completely possible from a top down approach, but utterly impossible when trying to focus from a bottom up approach.

A lot of people’s apathy is driven by the false perception that they cannot make a difference with their own power.

Partially because there are so many folks like you who without realizing they are doing so, expect everyone to understand and care about every topic, even while you yourself obviously could not live up to such an unrealistic standard.

But also partially because of propaganda.

Why do you think BP loves telling people to take personal responsibility over climate issues? They know its a dead end.

That their vote doesn’t matter.

This part I absolutely agree with and constantly argue with people on lemmy about. So many people believe the only way out is some whimsical fantastical revolution that will never come, or a third party that would actually secure a victory for the enemies.

This is great. Where did you find this?

This is way too general. Like I get its a joke, but I don’t think anyone showers super quickly unless they are time pressed

Nah. They all suck. Id much rather shower more frequently and stay in a climate controlled environment than have some asthma activating supermarket washroom smelling crap making me itch.

Ha ha lol lets insult customers!

Seriously I do not understand signs like this.

They only scold the very customers they want, while they will bounce off the customers they don’t want.

These signs are self masturbatory in nature. Just someone who wants to rant and feel better than others in a public fashion.

Cut the shit eh?

What is your realistic plan other than pointing fingers, pretending a magic revolution will save you, or pretending third parties do anything different than what I described?

There is none. You are only fighting the only pragmatic way forward that there is.

They might not need it to last longer than that.

This is a takeover.

Sure it is. Its obvious what its implying even if its left with some plausible deniability.

I hate this weak minded shit where people don’t just say what they mean for fear of criticism, and so they just leave a convenient motte to retreat behind.

As much as I’d love that, I dunno.

The regime gets more extreme every day.

Well this is fucking awful.

I mean, you could kinda see it from a mile away given how brain busted conservative media is about a conventionally attractive Palestinian woman daring to participate in politics, and be progressive.

Hopefully this isn’t the first big dissident capture and instead functions as a springboard for her political career. Like best outcome: She gets her early Bernie protest pics out of the way.

I really well and truly do not care for no true scottsman arguments. Some christians are horrible people. They’re still christian even if they’re hypocrites, because every religious person inherently is because no one could possibly follow every single one of their rules, and in fact in many instances the rules themselves demand people pick and choose.

They only just got the right to corrected passports under Biden, and he was barely willing to enforce it. No prior liberal administration gave a shit about Trans people.

Ah yes, the ol “Slow progress is the same thing as active discrimination” routine. How lovely and nuanced.

Not to mention this is happening without a senate majority and with a supreme court stacked against them.

Happening for literally centuries. FFS, look up the history of Sandra Bland and Tamir Rice. Both executed during the Obama Administration by local police. This, six and seven years respectively, after the “Obama Beer Summit” that was supposed to kick off something resembling a national reform effort.

Once again, you are in bad faith making false equivalences.

This is happening at mass scale and a clear spike from the relatively occasional incidents of the past.

It’s like you literally just want things to get worse with this type of nuance lacking thinking.

Look, I could go on typing specific nuances missed for everything you bring up but we’d be wading right past the point that you refuse to acknowledge; that there are clear differences between the parties. Those differences exist today, and they are massive and matter. A third party strategy is a strategy that would guarantee that any leftist policies were made impossible for generations. If anything, trying to spin up a fake republican third party would help your case more.

Its just the math of a winner takes all/first past the post system. Whichever side splits, the people who were closest to it lose severely.

In this case, the neolibs are absolutely your allies vs the right wing fascists. Those are the facts.

Consumers are not babies. Most are not children. They can take full responsibility for their own choices and failure to research when it’s available.

This is an attitude that seeks to attribute blame rather than practically solve the problem.

This is evidenced by you continuing to say:

There is a reasonable extent that can be forgiven from lack of information.

Which only deals with this from thinking about this as a “who do I blame” rather than a “How can society solve this problem”.

We’ve seen that consumers for instance, don’t choose excess packaging, companies do.

In that same way, with things like the CAFE standards, Chicken tax and other ways that trucks are incentivised not to mention propagandized, its easy to see how this consumer “switch in preference” was manufactured, in the same way that the consumer switch to eating 4 times the amount of cheese within a few decades was a manufactured choice by teams of lobbyists.

We could all simply choose to consumer less animal product, be healthier and leave the environment in a much better position, but yet schools are still forced to feed kids milk with every meal due to lobbying.

Basically always, the root cause lies somewhere with some lobbyist group pushing their interests over that of the consumer.

You can handwave that away and choose to focus on personal choice, but to do that is to ignore the fact that for every issue you care about a whole lot, many people have issues they care about more, even if you’re just talking about fellow climate appreciating folks. What I’m saying is people can’t put all of their energy into every issue all at once. No human can. They’d burn out and be unable to move. That’s why these things matter and can only really be solved at the policy level.

See people driving to work when they’re easily within public transit areas.

You ever stop to think of the long history of car companies actively and successfully lobbying to ruin public transits image and efficiency in the US?

This didn’t just put up over night. People didnt just magically have these conclusions. Great video on this topic by a pretty awesome edutainment channel.

See people buying slave labor made trinkets off temu, shein, amazon, AliExpress, and many more, or buying constant new shitly made polyester clothes because “fashion”.

I guarantee you there are areas of life you are blind to as well, where someone equally as idealistic to you and equally looking for someone to blame rather than solving the problem, is screaming at the top of their lungs angry you don’t do something about it thinking the same as you “the information is all there!!!”

All the information is easily accessible and clear to everyone. They are making a conscious decision to pollute more for their own convenience. This is not saying companies are not also responsible for massive amounts of waste. Do not take it like that. But people need to also understand lifestyles cannot stay the same and still fight climate change. People need to give up their trinkets, fast fashion, cars, etc, if they want to actually fight climate change and pollution

Yada yada yada, but they won’t, and until you get the reasons why they won’t, and how humans have finite focus, and do burnout, or become apathetic, often due to literal people whose jobs it is to get them to, you won’t be trying to solve the problem, but instead you’ll be trying to pin the blame to the least powerful people in the scenario.