Yeah they are not as good as the hype since other companies have caught up and put out comparable headphones for cheaper.

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Most people demanding hd6xx are some special status ultra special snowflake mega headphones that are completely unique and worth their RIDICULOUS asking price are just stuck in sunk cost fallacy.

This is ridiculous money for headphone that sounds as good as he400

he400i gets you super close and could be had for 90 bucks.

Same here but I can’t justify another mediocre headphone that adds no value to my collection since 6xx already was a dissapointment.

It’s exists only so apple doesn’t get sued.

It’s erring on side of safety.

I use my oneplus 6t with a dongle as my DAP since my fiio x1 finally broke.
I would absolutely not use a phone as a music player cause

1. you use up battery you need for phone to function as a phone
2. unless your music horizons are non existant or you only stream, your phones memory is used up with half your library
3. the solders on ports will work harden and will break leaving you with a very expensive brick

Just get a dap for 300 that will last you a decade.

You’re gonna shell out 1.8 grand for a minor upgrade with the 800s soon since youre now on the sennhesier cult.

There’s so many genres where 90% of the interesting and fun stuff in the music is in the sub bass.