Kai Havertz took on a man on the touchline and beat him. It still feels like a mirage.

He would literally be what Jorginho is now

Moyes: “We feel that we’re not getting an awful lot back when we’re giving it back to the officials or whoever,” he said.

“There have been a couple of big incidents that have been highlighted, but it’s mainly at the top clubs. It’s as if people don’t think that some other clubs have the same problems, the same Var problems, the same decision-making. It doesn’t get the same highlight. We’re all pretty disappointed by what we’ve been getting back.

“We don’t want to do it because managers will be fined for speaking out of turn. Most managers don’t want to say anything about it because we know we’re locked down.

“If clubs or managers choose to have an outburst then that’s their choice and they can choose to do that.”

Gee, would you look at that. It’s almost like staying silent achieves nothing. I was told Arteta and Arsenal embarrassed themselves.

The ‘rant’ happened less than an hour after the match. So you’re saying you ‘agreed’ with Arsenal immediately after the match, when the injustices re the decisions hadn’t actually been highlighted yet? What were you ‘agreeing’ with exactly? If you ‘agreed’ with Arsenal, neither the rant nor the statement should have changed your stance on that as the ‘rant’ essentially said they were the wrong decisions, and the statement was released to back the manager. The ‘hypocrisy’ you’re talking about came from an out of context quote, said on a different day, in a different interview, days after the Liverpool game when Arteta was asked about the precedent it would set it refs are banned from officiating certain teams games. You don’t think it’s too much of a coincidence that an out of context quote began circulating the media immediately after, at the same time talking heads from the same broadcast company released identical statements?