LurkingLuddite

Which is exactly why it shouldn’t be condoned or supported.

When your motivation doesn’t extend past stupid ape brain, you’re doing it wrong.

Most people that actually know what they’re talking about fully and completely understand that voting is hardly even the start of corrective action, let alone the full solution…

and what happens when a mod or admin abuses their power? If the answer is only people whine about it, all you have is a minor step in the right direction and not an actual solution.

Nah, this was a bit nebulous of a discussion since the original comment wasn’t exactly spelling out their intent.

After a few more replies, it looks like they weren’t trying to say bad ideologies should be tolerated in any form, more of just saying the, “go back to reddit” stuff is indeed stooping to a low that only the too intolerant use.

In the off-chance that someone is merely parroting bigotry/ideology that they were awash in and don’t truly believe, it is always better to tell them off in ways that don’t tokenize and reduce them to a charicature of the ideology. Especially don’t dismiss them in ways that allow them to dismiss you just as easily. “Go back to reddit” is tokenizing your own response, which just fuels division and enlightens noone.

Because this is hardly a contentious discussion or topic, and something doesn’t have to be a guarantee to never the less be a trend…?

Yes, though as the person you’re responding to is trying to point out, using the Paradox of Tolerance to tolerate the intolerable because of some appeal to hypocrisy is exactly not how to use the paradox of tolerance.

While hypocrisy is an important part of the lessons to take from it, the hypocrisy parts are supposed to be about not stooping to their level in the process of not tolerating them as opposed to having to tolerate them.

But that is unironically reddit behavior to use such insulting and dismissive language rather than saying… “such talk is not welcome here”.

Immaturity shouldn’t be acceptable, even from the “correct” opinion holder.

I think we should test this theory a little more.

It really doesn’t. At all.

Only because politicians and judges are too stupid to actually enforce the constitution… It’s already supposed to trump any law like QE even if it’s on the books.

Nah, the complaints get deleted faster than the wrong-think. The point is you aren’t given enough to ‘notice’ when the hammer comes down as it does in many communities here.

lol

If you’re losing the battle of wisdom against a toddler, perhaps there is a reason to listen to that toddler…

You seem to not understand how anarchy works. It is not, “no rules and everyone is equal amd does what they want”. It’s, “nobody is given de facto authority over others with which they can cudgel their compatriots”. Not having de facto, unquestionable authority is a long ways away from, “there are no rules for society”.

No, you are. You are just in denial about it.

You’re doing so much projection here it’s genuinely sad.

They did. Why are you tone policing? You’re doing exactly what they’re saying is bad…

How do you see overly heavy opinion based moderation if you’re never the target of it? You don’t. You just see communities that are weirdly same-think. Though I bet you’d just dismiss it as a consequence of the fediverse already self-selecting for a certain type, but that is wrong.

There is bad moderation all over the place, but you don’t see it, because many mods/admins prefer to ban and delete than to let the vote system do its job.

Anarchism is not about zero enforcement of rules. Especially wise ones like don’t dittle kids…

Enforcing regulation and enforcing one’s own personal views are two different things. This entire convo is supposed to focus on the latter, not confuse them with each other.

Global warming is about as good of a similarity as you’re going to get out of real life. Fossil fuels are literally pumping up goop the Earth has already sequestered, burning it for energy while harming the planet, just like Mako reactors.

If you cannot see the ample similarities, you’re just… not even thinking.

Unconstitutional conduct is already suable over, though…? This bill is insanely toothless and the people of NJ deserve better.