I’m kinda on the pro-ship side considering the rampant puritanism that anti-shippers have shown, but I’m just asking to check my own biases.
Also, this place does have a lot of libs, so keep that in mind.
I don’t doubt some proshippers are groomers. There are a massive amount of proshippers, especially outside the west like in LATAM and Asian fandoms so it happens from time to time and other proshippers call it out.
What is true is that there a massive amount of evidence of vocal antishippers being guilty of sexual harassment and abuse among other things. https://ultimate-shipping-sources.carrd.co/#documentation I think it’s a symptom of a patriarchal problem where weird groups are scapegoated to draw attention from normies who actually commit sexual abuse because it’s normal in this kind of society.
May I ask what an anti-shipper is?
Someone opposed to fictional taboo ships who judges people for liking or making them. The latter part is crucial because a lot of proshippers don’t care for taboo stuff but they don’t look down on those who do.
I doubt there’s much crossover between Lemmygrad and fandom culture.
You show me an ML Disney adult and I’ll show you a fed.It’s strawmanning + puritanism. I wouldn’t get invested in any conversations on the subject and enjoy what you like and block people that cause you trouble over it.
What the fuck is a ship
A big thing floating in the water that have people on it and they don’t scream for help (usually).
Where based things happen (Potemkin)
What in the world am I reading I do t understand a single thing, what is a shipper
I always assumed it meant someone who advocates for a romantic relationship between two fictional characters, or makes fanfic of it. For example “shipping” Cloud from Final Fantasy 7 with Aerith or shipping him with Tifa.
That is correct. Or they ship them for fun.
So a typical online nonsense. Sorry if I sound harsh but touch some grass. Get outside and protest nazis in the streets instead of staying inside and chatting with some basement dwellers about some fictional perversions. reddit is a shithole and is designed to eat your time so you dont do anything else, same as consumerism as a distraction from politics
How in the hell do you expect me to go outside when I have barely any life skills and can’t even muster up the willpower to do so?
And many of us do touch grass. Many of us also have free time. If they think we’re too into shipping and fandom stuff they should see Xiaohongshu.
As someone who is only vaguely aware about f these fandom factions I can’t help but feel that pro-ship is used to defend people writing the most heinous fanfic imaginable. Like the whole thing is artificially created because some weirdos are turning kids shows into Lolita and when called out they invented this pro-ship nonsense to equate heinous shit with horny nerds writing boring horny nonsense.
Maybe it’s just me, but growing up during the height of Harry Potter nobody declared sides in the Great War of shipping Harry and Hermione or whatever. It wasn’t until people rightfully started calling out pedo shit that all of a sudden you’ve got this great ideological battle between freedom and cancel culture or what the fuck ever.
And reacting to this the anti-ship crowd picked up all the puritans, contrarians, perpetual finger-waggers, and people mad that their ship isn’t popular.
I’m tired and rambly, but to summarize this all feels artificially created to defend creeps and pedos. This debate always surfaces when someone writes something fucked up but nary a peep otherwise.
It’s all about shipping together characters in fiction, right? If that’s the case why do we need to bother with other people’s fantasies?
Is there any causal relation between e.g. shipping siblings in anime and real life incest? If not, and I don’t think there is, it’s just a distraction from real problems.
I don’t know the community or the context but this sort of discussion usually comes down to what kind of conduct people want to have inside of their community and it appears that “pro-shippers” and allowing shipping of minors and family members creates an unsafe environment that leads to real-world harm like grooming of community members.
I don’t really engage with shipping drama, as I find it pointless. I don’t really get what Pro-Shipping is there’s a difference between having a morbid interest in a narrative that can be produced from taboo dynamics, and someone who wants to fetishize taboo relationship dynamics. As ssomeone with a morbid sense of curiosity that usually leads to regret I can sorta relate to the former.
Like for example, would people who are interested in a game like The Coffin of Andy And Leyley becuase of its exploration of fucked up themes be considered Pro-Shippers? Or would it only apply to the portion of that fan base who obviously have a fetishistic fixation of the portrayal of incest in the game?
Maybe it’s becuase I tend yo avoid delving into shipping discussions for series I like, but I’m confused about how broad the term is.
My personal view is that a shipper should be examined by the reasons for their behavior. Are they genuinely interested in exploting potential narratives/charecter analysis, or are they just trying to fulfill a personal fetish.
I’m not sure I have the capacity to speak more deeply on the topic or give a more thorough analysis, so apologies.
anti-weeb aktion now!
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It should be that insignificant, yeah. But it has gotten people doxxed, sexually harassed, and driven to suicide. Thus this drama warrants concern.
What do you have against the unemployed? I’m disabled. I’m sorry for being unemployed. Maybe if working conditions were much better I could work.
I just kinda do, there isn’t really a logical reason for it beyond me mainly being in the fandom sphere because I’m mainly interested in fiction and how it affects people.
Who the fuck do you think you are to judge “the unemployed”?
