Just a heads-up, in case anyone is considering buying any headphones from Drop - DON’T!!!

I purchased a PC38X from Drop.com, which are now defective due to a manufacturing defect, and they are refusing to honour the warranty, within the approved period.

So far the excuses they have come up with have been:

  1. try these fixes (which I already tried - they never bothered to properly read my email)

  2. your item is not in the warranty period (it absolutely is, and their dates in their email confirmed this)

  3. ok, fine, it’s in warranty, but it’s out of stock now (absolute lie, the item is ‘available’, ‘in stock’, and ‘ready to ship’ - I had a friend put in an order out of curiosity, and it went through with no issues

  4. how about you take $15-$20 instead and piss off?

I have attached the conversation with them to this post, and images showing the item (a) is in warranty and (b) is in stock, and their horrible reply.

Just a thought for anyone considering a Drop.com purchase - they are REFUSING to honor valid warranties. Stay safe out there everyone.

https://imgur.com/a/oUxkNdn

  • HotRoderX@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Basically you used click bait tittle and are throwing a fit, because you bought something from another country. “Yes United States isn’t Canada” Don’t like how the company is handling it.

    Then next time buy something locally that way you can go in and physically demand a new product. Then when they refuse and give you a refund. Then you can throw your tantrum in person.

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      10 months ago

      Their standard warranty applies in Canada. If they refuse to honor it because of that, it’s simple… they shouldn’t sell outside the U.S.

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    10 months ago

    Imagine going into this deal expecting drop to pay an additional $100 if something went wrong with the headphones.

    • BriareusD@alien.topOPB
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      10 months ago

      The extended warranty of 3 years only applies to the US. The 2 year warranty is standard to anywhere they ship/sell the product. I expect them to honor the warranty terms that they and I agreed upon on purchase. Those terms state replacement for a defective product if it’s in warranty.

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    10 months ago

    They are honouring the warranty and offering you a full refund, it’s not their fault that you ordered from a country that would imply paying customs fees for the item upon arrival.

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    10 months ago

    fuck these drop shills acting like you’re somehow in the wrong for wanting a working product

    at some point maybe you just chargeback and try to get your pc38x fixed third party. fuck drop

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    10 months ago

    Drop did kinda the same to me a year ago. They sold me 6 variations in an artisan keycap series as a bundle ($180) but I receive two duplicated variations. Their customer support respond like this:

    1. Try to cope, at least the number is correct
    2. We really want to help you but the bundle is out of stock (but all variations are available individually on the website)
    3. Sorry we cannot replace 2 caps out of the 6 for you because you are buying a bundle (what I’m receiving is not the said bundle though?)
    4. We can do a full refund but the bundle is not longer there (which means I need to buy them separately for a total of $240)
    5. What about we give you $20 coupon and move-on? (which I got annoyed and accepted it, spend another $80 to complete the set, and gifted out the duplicates to my friend who has the same hobby)

    I could totally get it why are they doing all these acrobatic maneuvers in business sense. But come on, that’s jeopardizing customer trust and loyalty for very little gain.

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    10 months ago

    just do Option B in your very last screenshot. at least you can just buy a brand new unit rather than sending it into the shop and getting it repaired

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    10 months ago

    They are offering a full refund with a prepaid shipping label. What’s wrong with that?

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    10 months ago

    Not sure why they wouldn’t just send a replacement if they have them in stock. That aside…

    Saying they won’t honor the warranty is a bit misleading since they’ve offered multiple options, just not the one you want. They absolutely will honor the warranty by offering you a full refund; that’s pretty standard.

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      10 months ago

      OP is contradicting himself. So his post recommends to not buy from Drop. And then he wants to keep Drop product, instead of full price refund that is offered by Drop.

      If you dislike Drop that much, take the full refund offer. That is like using the product for free for 2 years. Then buy another headphone from somewhere else. Oh, but then you want PC38X for its value.

    • BriareusD@alien.topOPB
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      10 months ago

      Except that with the refund I wouldn’t be able to buy a new pair because of no sale, duties, and shipping (Canada).

      I don’t understand why they won’t send a new pair that they have in stock. I will happily pay to send them back the defective one in exchange.

      EDIT: And yes, they offered ‘multiple’ options - but a $20 credit or $15 refund are pretty damn crappy options

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      10 months ago

      Their “replacement inventory” likely consists of refurbished units, and that’s what they don’t have inventory of.

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          10 months ago

          drop is not the one completing the repairs, manufacturermay not be able to repair that model or have not gotten to it yet

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        10 months ago

        Warranty Replacement Refurbished is pretty standard practice for computers and electronics.

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          10 months ago

          It’s appalling practice though.

          If I pay for new goods I don’t expect used/secondhand. I want it to last as long as possible because it makes limited budgets stretch further to buy more things.

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            10 months ago

            It’s kind of fair for warranty replacements since the unit that is being replaced will have been used for some time. It still depends on the build quality though, some things like Hifiman are known to die randomly no matter how careful you are.

            That said, most retailers will provide you a new replacement if they don’t have refurbished units in stock. Drop are being assholes in this case because OP bought the headphones at a discount, so they get more profit by refunding OP’s purchase and selling a new unit at full price than replacing it with a new unit.

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              10 months ago

              Except my used shit =/= somebody else’s used shit. Entirely different value. It’s like eating a burger that you’ve spat on vs eating a burger that some other random person has spat on.

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                10 months ago

                I would expect a reputable company that is sending out refurbished products (as warranty replacements or otherwise) to ensure those products are in a usable condition before sending them out. Buying a used product privately from the previous owner is a different matter. Of course, all of that applies only to products that actually retain a significant amount of their initial value after being used, which headphones do whereas partially eaten food does not.

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    10 months ago

    The idea of Massdrop was you give up a whole bunch of consumer rights for a good deal.

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      10 months ago

      This isn’t mass drop anymore. These headphones aren’t a group buy. Times have changed, so shall the circumstances surrounding defects.

      For all intents and purposes this is just a normal retailer.

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      10 months ago

      Drop hardly uses the group buy model anymore. Their popular products are sold as a typical store does. At the same time, in the keyboard space which drop is also big in, there are plenty of vendors using the group buy model who do offer better consumer protection and customer service despite having much less capital.

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    10 months ago

    Dude learns his country is small and shipping is expensive lol.

    I’ve never had a problem with returning stuff from drop. Drops where I learned about how bad hifimans stuff are lol. I had to return 3 headphones multiple times. All with noticeable defects. They never gave me a hard time.

    • BriareusD@alien.topOPB
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      10 months ago

      They literally tried to claim (a) that the warranty is expired - when it’s not and that (b) it’s out of stock - when it’s not.

      Ignoring the other stuff, doesn’t that seem what would be ‘a hard time’?

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        10 months ago

        Sometimes people make mistakes, or particular individual employees are problematic.

        I had a fucked up experience with a hyper-x keyboard warranty, and then 10 days later I called them again, and got their manager. Manager literally apologized for a half hour, and explained the whole series of events which lead to the problem, and gave me a replacement without me sending the original back.

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    10 months ago

    What’s the problem? They’re offering you a full refund, sounds good to me

    • BriareusD@alien.topOPB
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      10 months ago

      Between the price difference, shipping, and customs, I would end up spending considerably more out of pocket.

      The other problem is that they first tried to weasel their way out of it by falsely claiming the warranty does not apply

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    10 months ago

    They are honoring the warranty by offering you a full refund. You lied in your title.

    • BriareusD@alien.topOPB
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      10 months ago

      That was after many back and forward e-mails. They first attempted to claim they were out of warranty, and there’s nothing they can do.

      Honoring it would be replacing them, which they acknowledged in their e-mail. But then they tried to claim that there’s no stock - even though there clearly is.

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    10 months ago

    Running into the same issue.m, sans headphones (mic is not working. Less than 6 months of use.) I won’t ever be buying from Drop again. It’s the second time I’ve had issues with them.