• dudeface@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I have seen him on a few podcasts talking about his shame and steps he has taken to realise the full impact of what he did and how he has changed

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      4 days ago

      Your comment does seem to confirm TheBlindPew’s point, that it’s all about him. Did he apologize to the women?

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          2 days ago

          From everything ive seen he’s not actually apologized TO the women he abused, he has only ever really made public apologies where he says “this is all true, i thought I was okay by asking for consent beforehand” when there is credible reporting that on multiple occasions he did not even bother to ask for consent.

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        3 days ago

        I mean in fairness he was the one on the podcast and was potentially asked about it… I have no idea what he did or didn’t with the women but I would hope he has tried to apologize personally

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          4 days ago

          He’s a public figure who sexually assaulted public figures… In those situations, they usually do publicly apologize.

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            3 days ago

            Well if you feel he hasn’t done enough you should probably avoid supporting him I guess

            Pretty loose definition of sexual assault you are using also

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              There’s also the fact that he also had to “apologize” for attempts to cover it up and make sure it didn’t go public by pressuring victims (or had his manager doing it). Only apologized after someone finally did go public with evidence.

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              3 days ago

              this is 2026. nuance is gone in these times now. people are either 100% good or 100% evil.

              no in between, anymore unfortunately.

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                3 days ago

                unfortunately

                Sorry, you think it’s “unfortunate” that sex pests are being called out now? This isn’t about someone being 100% good or evil at all, it’s so much simpler than that.

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                  The sex pest was called out. He lost multiple ongoing projects and hasn’t had any notable work for literal years. He was never taken to court and has still apologized for both his behavior and directly to the women involved.

                  Clearly none of that is enough for most people, so what is enough do you think? Like, the man was no Weinstein; get real.

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                  I think given the nature of the assault, he is probably alright to come back, honestly.

                  he’s already been called out. you’re making it sound like he raped babies or something.

                  people can change and rebuild their lives. and I think he’s free to do that.

                  you can not like it. that’s fine. just don’t watch his stuff or follow him. its not rocket surgery.

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              3 days ago

              I honestly fucking hate that you’re making me look this shit up and read about it again. It’s was not just over the phone:

              As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

              They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”

              https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html

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                3 days ago

                Sounds like he asked for consent to me

                There is the question of if the power dynamic made it inappropriate obviously

                Definitely not sexual assault in my eyes, watching someone jack off isn’t the end of the world, there is a reason there was no charges or conviction

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                  Alright Louis, it’s time to log off.

                  For real though, this is some serious psychopath logic. Consent isn’t just merely asking the question of whether you can do what you want to do without even waiting for a clear-cut response. If I ask someone if I can break their phone, they laugh because they think I’m joking, and then I go and actually do it — guess what? There was never any consent.

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                    There also literally could not be consent due to the nature of their relationship and the massive power imbalance. But I’m not going to waste my time trying to explain that to this person.

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                    It sounds to me like he waited for consent and this is just her words

                    I don’t really want to live in a world where people are punished because people change their mind later after consenting to something

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                  3 days ago

                  Cool.

                  I hope you’re never in a position where the person with an inordinate amount of power over your career puts you into a situation like that.

                  Hint: There cannot be consent here due to the power imbalance.

                  Even if that wasn’t true, what you just described isn’t consent. I fear for every young woman that comes in contact with you.

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                    3 days ago

                    Of course they can, get real

                    Other female comedians have come forward and said it happened to them and it was consensual and they didn’t care