Idk why people bother cutting them. The poles they use are two part you can zip out the screws with a torx safety bit and just pull it off the pole. Cutting definitely takes more time
Apparently the government stores hundreds of dollars in the cameras as a reward for helping take them down!
didn’t you know flock cameras just do that
It’s called “Flock.” Obviously, they all flew away! But you can’t blame the PD for not knowing that; pigs don’t know much about flying.
If the surveillance cameras can’t even catch the persons who removed all of their cameras, then they have proven to be worthless at catching real criminals, with their only proven worth is stalking police officers ex wives.
People removing surveillance cameras taxpayers didn’t approve aren’t “criminals”. The proper term is heroes.
That’s just not true. Sometimes they haven’t even met the women they’re stalking.
All Flock cameras do is identify cars. If you aren’t a car, they can’t see you. They aren’t just mindlessly recording everything like an ordinary camera, so police can’t look through the recordings to identify you.
There are face tracking flock cams out there too. Benn Jordan recorded part of his video essay on one that was open to the public on a walking path.
Found the flock employee.
That is simply not true. The first 60 seconds of this Benn Jordan & 404 Media video proves otherwise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU1-uiUlHTo.
He goes on to talk about flocks condor cameras, which specifically track people.
Me when I’m a liar who’s eternally loyal to peter theil:
I’m against Flock cameras. I didn’t expect to run into people on the anti side who are in denial about how the things work. Like, Flock truthers.
“they can’t see you if you’re not a car” is how they work?
I misunderstood. I didn’t realize that they also functioned as ordinary cameras.
That’s the whole point of their use of the “licence plate reader” euphemism. They are high definition, high refresh-rate cameras, and cloud-based as opposed to a CCTV system (would be OCTV I guess) that 100% can and do track people as has been shown by independent research
They won’t create a searchable database of faces, assuming they work as advertised. However, the footage is streamed to a server (sometimes publicly accessible) and available for manual review.
Edit: also BT/Wi-Fi MAC addresses of devices, whether on cars or not, are recorded, and can link drivers to their licence-plate-equipped cars even when they’re walking with the same phone or earpods
All the news stories I’ve seen talk about concerns over tracking movement. This is the first I’ve heard about people worried about the actual video.
Look up Benn Jordan’s videos on these things. They are NOT just license plate readers.
Correct but Flock’s own system, if their public statements can be trusted, doesn’t do facial recognition itself. The main use is tracking vehicles using license plates and all kinds of visual cues, and Bluetooth/Wi-Fi devices by their MAC address and properties, and linking this huge swath of data together. Still, faces are recorded as video that can be checked manually or processed by third-party tools, including “AI” facial-recognition ones. Therefore, if a pedestrian destroys all Flock cameras and has Bluetooth earpods on them, there will be an easy way to link the events, and then the police will check if their face is visible in surviving footage and check the country-wide database if the person ever used the earphones in a vehicle near the cameras.
Yes, the searchable DB is the big problem. But they work like regular IP cameras too: do you think police would buy them as much if they didn’t? Or did stream but blurred out anything that wasn’t a vehicle? If a crime happened recently near a Flock camera and they know when, they can absolutely use whatever it saw. Not to mention, third-party “AI” tools can be always used on raw footage from any camera for face recognition, event classification etc. so you’re not safe even as a pedestrian without the police having “probable cause”. And the camera going offline is probable cause*.
* Here, probable cause would ideally mean legally justifiable reasons to check the recording. However, in practice, it’s just any excuse for a police officer to justify spending time retrieving and watching the footage.
Lol
Hey man, it was higher power as far as I’m concerned.
Flocks are known to take off and fly away on their own.
so ? where do they end up then. do the Flocks just go into space.
Well, if they can’t find them they’re probably migratory and flew north for the Summer.
They should search for the Flocks in Canada.
Twas the spirit of paul bunyon
This is a known issue with flock systems, sometimes they just do that.
Some might say it’s a feature, not a bug
The top fell off
It’s not very typical.
Agreed, a well known software bug is taking flock cameras down across the country. Hopefully they can fix it before it gets too out of hand.
The weird thing is, if I ever see someone tearing down Flock cameras, actually no I didn’t.
Yeah it was really weird. I saw one just destroy itself.
How did they destroy the cameras without being seen by all the damn cameras?
If you wear all black, do not show any skin or indicating marks, and vary your gait with a consistent stumble, then the cameras are useless. Remember to park out of sight of any cameras.
Best thing would be to not use ur car but go by foot or bicycle, but then again, it’s the US, where u are literally trapped in ur home if u don’t have a car lol
It’s obviously a villain who can be in hundreds of places at once because he was also fishing with half the town.
I have to believe he’s a time traveler who hasn’t been born yet. He can’t be I’D because he hasn’t been given ID yet, and he can be in multiple places at once. Of course, if he were to appear beside me, I would have to buy him a drink in appreciation, too.
Whomever the suspect was they were fucking my mother that night and there is no way they could have done it because it was going on all night long.
The Big Brown Beaver did it.
They were on the other side of the country with me
Amazing. How true is this? Anyone got a source?
Edit: ah, they only had 8 cameras. Still, that’s amazing.
Yeah, Winona isn’t that big. But also a couple of those cameras were in very public locations. Most were just next to a forest lined highway and those would have been easy. But two of them were like a block away from a quiet suburban neighborhood. Still not sure how they managed to get those without getting caught. I can’t imagine someone living nearby wouldn’t have noticed someone outside running a reciprocating saw in the middle of the night.
I can’t imagine someone living nearby wouldn’t have noticed someone outside running a reciprocating saw in the middle of the night.
That’s literally the whole point. If you saw something - no you didn’t.
I actually did see the perp, now, bear with me here, but it appeared to be a 3 story tall creature from the paleolithic era
IDK. I saw the perp and I thought they looked an awful lot like Ted Cruz.
I hope they earned about three fiddy from the copper that was in the cameras
As i said in other posts: Winona did it.
