Great point comrade, let me elaborate on what I mean. My perspective on this is a bit cynical. So long as we’re dealing with society that has money in one form or another, I think porn industry and sex work will exist in some form or the other, and fighting it is pointless. Maybe my experience in sex work and with life in eastern europe in general made me a bit of a doomer on this topic, but I think trying to get rid of it entirely is not only counterproductive but actively harmful. You cannot outlaw sex work out of existence, like alcohol or drug abuse, so outlawing it only makes it more risky for everyone involved, including the workers participating in it. If the real, in-the-moment, choice placed before me is “wage a crusade against something that cannot be killed in our modern time” or “try to compromise with it and bring it under control to reduce harm” I’m picking the last option.
Under a transitional state with a socialist govt creating a real legal framework and protection for sex workers with a real pipeline to get them out of the industry is gonna do less harm than just outright banning them because we’re still dealing with capital and, ultimately, are still dealing with remains of the capitalist system within our nation, which will be here for the foreseeable future. Same as criminalizing alcohol or drugs.
With that being said, I do recognize that my perspective on this might be shaped by personal biases or be outright liberal, so I will be more than happy to read the materials you provided, thank you comrade!
Why not engage in acts of free love instead, which anyone knows are way more fullfilling?
I see no problem with sexual community service, matter of fact - Communist Gloryholes ftw. In an abstract socialist society of the future I wholeheartedly support this over monetary service. With that being said, “which anyone knows are way more fullfilling” is a matter of personal perspective (which I agree with, for the record, but fulfillment isn’t universal in every way, so this isn’t really something truly based in the material world imo but that’s a tangent). I have a slight issue with it because similar sentiments are being used as prejudice against polyamory, but I understand what you mean.
Edit: regarding value, I view this as providing a form of entertainment and/or fulfilling a need, especially if it’s recorded pornography, but overall it’s not very high. And certainly not high enough to justify the abuse the sex workers face
The concept of sex work and the commodification of sex is un-communist. There should be no sex work under socialism whatsoever, without exception. You would have the exact same freedoms to do whatever you want with consenting individuals in a society without any sex work being planned as “community service”.
The whole thought process of seeing sex in terms of provider and pursuer is, in fact, the capitalist thought process, and not at all in line with what sex will look like under communism
The line between “pursuer” and “provider” will vanish alongside the patriarchy and instead will appear merely as two people being compatible.
So, no, it’s not going to be communist glory holes, but instead communist kink clubs
Great point comrade, let me elaborate on what I mean. My perspective on this is a bit cynical. So long as we’re dealing with society that has money in one form or another, I think porn industry and sex work will exist in some form or the other, and fighting it is pointless. Maybe my experience in sex work and with life in eastern europe in general made me a bit of a doomer on this topic, but I think trying to get rid of it entirely is not only counterproductive but actively harmful. You cannot outlaw sex work out of existence, like alcohol or drug abuse, so outlawing it only makes it more risky for everyone involved, including the workers participating in it. If the real, in-the-moment, choice placed before me is “wage a crusade against something that cannot be killed in our modern time” or “try to compromise with it and bring it under control to reduce harm” I’m picking the last option. Under a transitional state with a socialist govt creating a real legal framework and protection for sex workers with a real pipeline to get them out of the industry is gonna do less harm than just outright banning them because we’re still dealing with capital and, ultimately, are still dealing with remains of the capitalist system within our nation, which will be here for the foreseeable future. Same as criminalizing alcohol or drugs. With that being said, I do recognize that my perspective on this might be shaped by personal biases or be outright liberal, so I will be more than happy to read the materials you provided, thank you comrade!
I see no problem with sexual community service, matter of fact - Communist Gloryholes ftw. In an abstract socialist society of the future I wholeheartedly support this over monetary service. With that being said, “which anyone knows are way more fullfilling” is a matter of personal perspective (which I agree with, for the record, but fulfillment isn’t universal in every way, so this isn’t really something truly based in the material world imo but that’s a tangent). I have a slight issue with it because similar sentiments are being used as prejudice against polyamory, but I understand what you mean. Edit: regarding value, I view this as providing a form of entertainment and/or fulfilling a need, especially if it’s recorded pornography, but overall it’s not very high. And certainly not high enough to justify the abuse the sex workers face
Bro did not just say that lol
The concept of sex work and the commodification of sex is un-communist. There should be no sex work under socialism whatsoever, without exception. You would have the exact same freedoms to do whatever you want with consenting individuals in a society without any sex work being planned as “community service”.
“sexual community service”
The whole thought process of seeing sex in terms of provider and pursuer is, in fact, the capitalist thought process, and not at all in line with what sex will look like under communism
The line between “pursuer” and “provider” will vanish alongside the patriarchy and instead will appear merely as two people being compatible.
So, no, it’s not going to be communist glory holes, but instead communist kink clubs
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