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    I mean… Compare the outccomes of west and east germany… History isn’t in communism’s favor, at all…

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      Comparing west and east Germany, eastern Germans enjoyed more secure lives with better safety nets, and were strapped for luxuries because the Soviet Union sought reparations for World War II. The western side was not de-Nazified like the eastern side was, and was flooded with cash and NATO armaments from the US Empire to serve as a foothold against the socialist bloc.

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      Lmao what a dumbass statement.

      1. East Germany was not communist, there has never been a nation even claiming to be communist. East Germany was socialist
      2. Among the people who lived in the GDR there is general agreement life was better back then
      3. You have plenty of examples of succesful socialist nations, like China, Cuba, Vietnam and more
      4. East Germanys downfall came with the Union of the two nations when capitalists made up a bunch of non-existent debt in order to buy state infrastructure for cheap
      5. Read “Stasi state or socialist paradise” instead of hallucinating more half-remembered propaganda from your childhood indoctrination.
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          America arms over 80% of dictatorship globally, so it would seem we are objectively the least democratic nation in the world.

          “Democracy” to us has always been a selective privilege enjoyed on the backs of the oppressed. It’s only a cudgel we weaponize to steal natural resources.

          And this didn’t start with Trump.

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          You’re just making shit up now. Well, you were before as well, but you’re also doing it now.

          China and Vietnam are both democracies. Even if they did not have elections, which they do, they would not be dictatorships, since power is not consolidated with one individual. The executive in China is in fact far less powerful than the executive in the US, for example. I don’t know much about the political institutions of the rest of SEA, but I doubt you do either.

          I would love to live in China. Would be nice to experience competent governance and institutions that actually exist to serve the people.

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            Try reading the pages you’re linking. The dictatorship of the proletariat means democracy for workers, no democracy for capitalists. It means the class of the proletariat makes up the dictator of society, not an individual dictator. Wikipedia literally states this in the first paragraph:

            People’s democratic dictatorship is a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) term to describe the state system of the People’s Republic of China. The premise of the people’s democratic dictatorship is that it is led by the working class, based on the alliance of workers and peasants, and the system exercises democracy over the people who constitute the vast majority of the national population, while perceived hostile elements are subject to dictatorship.[1] The CCP and state represent and act on behalf of the people, but in the preservation of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and possess and may use coercive powers against perceived reactionary forces.[2]

            As for Xinjiang, see Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation.

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            Damn I seem to have triggered all the Chinese fanboys with this

            Me when I say something wrong and people try to educate me: lol trigurd tha libruls

            They literally define themselves as a dictatorship of the proletariat, idk what to tell y’all

            Holy shit lmao, this might be the funniest thing a halfwit like you could write. What a massive tell. I could not imagine ever showing my ass like this, that might be the dumbest thing Ive ever seen. I can’t even think of an analogy that would help you understand how fucking stupid the thing you wrote is. Please do some basic reading on marxism before you open your mouth on the subject next time. By your own logic literally every country is a dictatorship https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dictatorship_of_the_bourgeoisie

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              What’s the problem? I literally just shared sources? Or am I not allowed to partake in this specific echo chamber?

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                you have done what every shitlib has done every time; linking to wikipedia articles without any specification.

                You didn’t even read the articles, you just googled this shit and called it a day.