• Bristlecone@lemmy.world
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        4 天前

        I’d fight to defend my loved countrymen. Hard to defend cowardice when its literally your country being invaded

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          4 天前

          Considering how your beloved countrymen were busy ethnically cleansing your other countrymen for 8 years, it’s an odd point to start fighting once they get hit. Kinda seems like you dont give a fuck about your “beloved” countrymen, you’re just propagandised to support [current thing].

          In 20 years you’ll be braying for the blood of ukrainians as your government hypes you up to “free” eastern Europeans from ukrainian Taleban.

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          Hard to defend cowardice when its literally your country being invaded

          So you think kidnapping teenagers and uncles to die is good, or…?

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      If my country was run by corrupt billionaires installed by a CIA backed coup and it got invaded after breaking several treaties for 8 years, and the reason it broke those treaties was so Nazis could carry out pogroms and shell ethnic minorities, then I would not want to fight for my country. The only people I would want to fight would be the roving gangs of Nazis that were forcing my friends and family to the front against their will.

      But good news! Ukraine is accepting volunteers, so you can go fight for them, if you think the cause is worth torture dungeons.

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              Right-wingers have absolutely no grasp on reality, its wild. The amount of propaganda that has inundated the western mind creates some truly fascinating cases.
              This is some George Bush North Korea, Iran, Iraq “axis of evil” level of brainworms that poster has going on.

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                  Yes, among many other things. You guys just throw words out without understanding them, huh?
                  “Dictator” isn’t just shorthand for “leader of a country i want to nuke”
                  He pretty clearly isn’t some absolute ruler, he’s an oligarch balancing a bunch of different interest groups. He’s a capitalist and while the end point of capitalism is fascism, Russia is quite much further away from it than the US or the UK is, for example.

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          the only nazis involved are the ones running the ukrainian gov’t

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          If you’re stuck in a fascist government and you get invaded by fascists your focus would reasonably be expected to be survival.

          I’m a fighter and an idealist, but when fascists clash my priority is a tourniquet.

          That said, there’s a case to be made for conscription when the alternative is annihalation.

          I’m certainly not on Russia’s side here, but I’m also pretty anti-torture. This war sucks, and in a sane world Russia would have been forced to back down by now.