My son who is on the spectrum and has really struggled to read at all, skips over most Maori words, unfamiliar names or Maori place names.
He also has a problem differentiating between other words that can also be a name or a place name, eg “Mrs Green said X” or “James walked down Brown street”.
He interprets them literally and ends up wondering why the street was brown or why was the lady green.
The specific book that they referenced on the news last night “At the Marae” was an absolute nightmare for us to work through every time it was in his book bag.
I don’t think that Te Reo shouldn’t be something that is taught, probably some Te Reo needs to be in the sight words that they learn right at the start.
I was just relaying that not everyone learns the same way and can deal with challenges the same way, I think in a couple of years of doing the basics he will be able to deal with it just fine.
Nobody is claiming everybody learns the same way. What we are saying is that our educational system should be structured to help the vast majority of the students and not crippled in a way to help the extremely small minority.
Like it or not your child will be exposed to Maori words and names. Hell if your town name isn’t a Maori word there are streets and neighbourhoods that are.
This racist government and this racist MP want to erase Maori identity and want to shelter children from Maori words because they see Maoridom as a form of evil to be avoided or destroyed.
She said her child has a learning disability. should we really take away textbooks and readers from all students which her child is unable to understand?
Do you think that’s a smart thing to do? Do you think that’s a moral thing to do?
What did I say which indicated to you that I objected to your child participating in the Kapa Haka or that I am against inclusion?
It seems like you also need to be educated since you seem to lash out like a child and attack people for things they never said. It’s not fitting for an adult to throw a tantrum like this.
I do not want the education system to eliminate all words your child has problems with from books and other educational materials. Our educational system should not be aimed at the lowest common denominator student.
If anything I think you are kind of sick for insisting that no student be exposed to words which your child can’t deal with.
and I struggled all through school with reading and writing even in English (with dyslexia), that doesn’t mean that we should relegate Te Reo to an even more of a second class language.
Yeah, I suspect my son is a little dyslexic. He cannot write and may never be able to.
He does Kapa Haka and I love the idea of him learning a bunch of Te Reo.
However, every night that we force our way through a book where he is just getting lost makes him really despondent and kills his enthusiasm for reading.
I understand what you are saying, not everyone learns in the same way. This seems to be less of an issue with texts that have Maōri words in them, and more of an issue if your son’s teacher not giving him texts that are appropriate to his learning (because they expect all kids to learn the same way). It’s fantastic that he is learning te reo through kapa haka.
The worst bit about it is that they will keep place and people names that are in Te Reo, so the argument about confusion just doesn’t hold any water
My son who is on the spectrum and has really struggled to read at all, skips over most Maori words, unfamiliar names or Maori place names.
He also has a problem differentiating between other words that can also be a name or a place name, eg “Mrs Green said X” or “James walked down Brown street”.
He interprets them literally and ends up wondering why the street was brown or why was the lady green.
The specific book that they referenced on the news last night “At the Marae” was an absolute nightmare for us to work through every time it was in his book bag.
Do you think the difficulties your child experiences should effect what we teach all children and how?
I don’t think that Te Reo shouldn’t be something that is taught, probably some Te Reo needs to be in the sight words that they learn right at the start.
I was just relaying that not everyone learns the same way and can deal with challenges the same way, I think in a couple of years of doing the basics he will be able to deal with it just fine.
Nobody is claiming everybody learns the same way. What we are saying is that our educational system should be structured to help the vast majority of the students and not crippled in a way to help the extremely small minority.
Like it or not your child will be exposed to Maori words and names. Hell if your town name isn’t a Maori word there are streets and neighbourhoods that are.
This racist government and this racist MP want to erase Maori identity and want to shelter children from Maori words because they see Maoridom as a form of evil to be avoided or destroyed.
My kid does Kapa Haka. He performed at Hutt Fest a couple of months ago. He learns the words by copying the folks around him rather than reading them.
His Te Reo vocabulary isn’t terrible, he just can’t read it well.
Cool. Once again I am opposed to shaping our educational system to the lowest common denominator of students.
Mate come on, it’s out of line to call somebody’s child the “lowest common denominator”.
She said her child has a learning disability. should we really take away textbooks and readers from all students which her child is unable to understand?
Do you think that’s a smart thing to do? Do you think that’s a moral thing to do?
Holy crap, I’m glad the awesome folks that lead his Kapa Haka group are more inclusive than you are.
I mean, your son needs special help; the most obvious response would be to give him that help, not shape the education system around him.
What did I say which indicated to you that I objected to your child participating in the Kapa Haka or that I am against inclusion?
It seems like you also need to be educated since you seem to lash out like a child and attack people for things they never said. It’s not fitting for an adult to throw a tantrum like this.
I do not want the education system to eliminate all words your child has problems with from books and other educational materials. Our educational system should not be aimed at the lowest common denominator student.
If anything I think you are kind of sick for insisting that no student be exposed to words which your child can’t deal with.
Seems to me you were trying to set them up so you could say got’em! with this comment, failed, and said it anyways.
The irony is you’re asking to EXCLUDE an entire culture because things are not inclusive enough for you.
and I struggled all through school with reading and writing even in English (with dyslexia), that doesn’t mean that we should relegate Te Reo to an even more of a second class language.
i just want to say fuck French root words in American English
every shit word I cant spell without memory is fucking Latin -> French -> English
lets start removing those
Yeah, I suspect my son is a little dyslexic. He cannot write and may never be able to. He does Kapa Haka and I love the idea of him learning a bunch of Te Reo.
However, every night that we force our way through a book where he is just getting lost makes him really despondent and kills his enthusiasm for reading.
I understand what you are saying, not everyone learns in the same way. This seems to be less of an issue with texts that have Maōri words in them, and more of an issue if your son’s teacher not giving him texts that are appropriate to his learning (because they expect all kids to learn the same way). It’s fantastic that he is learning te reo through kapa haka.
I call bullshit
What exactly is it you don’t believe?
Weirdly when you ask that, it makes me backtrack and want to believe you. So okay, I will.
All good =)