• _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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    is “taking on admins” what we’re now calling PugJesus and (self-proclaimed member of neo-nazi forums) goat rage-posting on comms they moderate?

    lol. lmao even.

    • Carl N. Yon@lemmy.worldOP
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      I thought anarchism was about DISMANTLING power dynamics like that of a tankie admin cabal?

      They are the few against th emany.

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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        I thought anarchism

        that’s because you have never read anything about anarchism and have no idea what it is. anarchism as a philosophy requires solidarity. and solidarity means a community coming together to protect itself from those bad actors who wish it harm. the freedom of association that is a core part of anarchism also means the freedom to disassociate. banning pug and goat was our community disassociating itself from someone who doesn’t wish us well and doesn’t want to be a part of us anyway. anyone who is on our matrix knows that everyone there was very supportive of the way the dbzer0 and AN admins have taken care of the situation and protected the peace of our community. nothing that has happened is at all at odds with anarchism, any more than it would be at odds with liberalism or communism.

        neither pug nor goat have lost their ability to take part in fedi, an ability they have made good use of by posting constant rage posts in their own comms. a couple of sad little kings, presiding over their sad little hills.

        • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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          banning pug and goat was our community disassociating itself from someone who doesn’t wish us well and doesn’t want to be a part of us anyway.

          When was I banned?

          I don’t wish fascists or their apologists well, nor do I make a habit of participating in their comms. Sorry that you seem to think otherwise.

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            /0

            fascist

            Considering trying out for the Olympics with that amount of mental gymnastics?

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              Considering trying out for the Olympics with that amount of mental gymnastics?

              I’m sorry, what do you regard Uyghur genocide denial, Holodomor denial, and the support of Vanguard parties overthrowing democracy as?

              Is that what anarchism is to you?

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                First two I simply dont see from /0 staff nor the vast majority of the users you’re delusional on both points. On the third neo liberal “democracy” isnt real and is largely a vessel for control by the capitalist oligarchic class, I do not think ML is the solution to that however.

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                  First two I simply dont see from /0 staff nor the vast majority of the users you’re delusional on both points.

                  Furthermore, despite aggressively (and rightly) removing other forms of genocide denial in that comm, both Holodomor and Uyghur Genocide denial are left up in that thread, despite the participation of multiple admins and the reporting of the material.

                  In addition to that, both Uyghur genocide denial and Holodomor denial in that same thread are upvoted by the Dbzer0 community.

                  How many dbzer0 users would you like me to cite engaging in Uyghur genocide denial or Holodomor denial before you’ll concede that it might be a problem? Legitimate question, I know of a significant number, so I may be able to convince you if you’re legitimately just skeptical.

                  On the third neo liberal “democracy” isnt real and is largely a vessel for control by the capitalist oligarchic class, I do not think ML is the solution to that however.

                  Rather than being a reference to modern democratic states, the position is in relevance to the Spartacist Uprising, which proposed, in response to Germany’s defeat in WW1 and subsequent incoming elections which the KPD was not barred from running in, and which were largely spearheaded by the then-much-more-left-wing-than-the-modern-day SPD, to attempt a coup explicitly along Bolshevik lines, which had, the previous year, dissolved a democratically elected revolutionary government in Russia.

                  DB0 believes that this vanguardist approach is true anarchist praxis, praising ML imitators as ‘libertarian socialists’.

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                    I dont see how unruffled is denying anything there merely pointing out that starving a entire population to death is on a different level to (still wrong keep in mind) more gradual chipping away of culture. And no frankly I dont need cherry picked “examples”, the prevailing attitude on /0 is against denials of those events and taking a anti tankie stance.

                    And again neolib “democracy” is a bad joke most parties of Wiemar at that time were milquetoast ‘social democrats’ right wing nationalists & conservatives or even more milquetoast liberals. And that particular experiment in neolib statecraft ended in the Nazis taking power and killing millions.

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                    The SPDs record is anti-democratic, they used elections to legitimize themselves then unleashed paramilitaries to crush organized workers. That’s not taking ‘democracy seriously,’ that’s narrowing what it means to protect the state.

                    Revolutionary democracy is more than just fucking ballots and voting. The entire point is mass participation, self organization and ongoing struggle.

                    to attempt a coup explicitly along Bolshevik lines,

                    The January uprising wasn’t a Bolshevik-style coup. It was a mass revolt sparked by SPD repression, which the KPD didn’t even plan and which Luxemburg herself thought was premature.

                    ‘history major’