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    As stated right there on the label, some of the NaCl has been replaced with taster’s choice KCl. So it was never pure sodium to begin with, due to all that pesky chlorine and now about half of the Na has been replaced with Potassium.

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      Imagine making pasta and salting the water with pure sodium. There’s a reason they don’t sell that in the supermarket.

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          I had to read this like 24 times to make sure I didn’t miss anything, but I’m 98% certain you’re correct. When referring to the individual components it should be chlorine not chloride. I’m not a chemical doctor, but this is my understanding.

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            Horrible at chemistry, but I’m 98% sure it is chloride - the chlorine is present as an anion, and as such is called chloride. Even if you refer to it as an individual component, you still observe Cl-, not Cl (or rather Cl2).

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              No, the element is chlorine. Chloride denotes a compound or molecule containing a chlorine ion, or a compound with a non-charged chlorine atom bonded.

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                This whole thread is very pedantic but in chemistry when someone refers to chlorine, they are usually referring to Cl2. I think in IUPAC naming chloride is reserved for for ions. Like dichloromethane (IUPAC) and methylene chloride (also common name).

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                Now I am confused. Mind bearing with me for a sec?

                I was referring to the chlorine present in NaCl, that should in fact be chloride due to it’s anionic nature, should it not? I mean sure it’s pedantic, but I’d still like to know where I went wrong with that thought :D .

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    I don’t understand this post. Salt doesn’t mean sodium. NaCl and KCl are both salts, and this is a 50/50 blend with less sodium (Na) for the people who need/want that. Am I missing something?

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      Being somebody who has to watch their sodium intake due to heart health concerns I would say that Morton is not at all deranged in creating this especially considering I’ve got a container of it sitting on my spice rack right now.

      Though it should be noted I do my best not to think about the fact that KCL is used in lethal injections. 😒 I just thank the gods I don’t have any ulcers.

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        Potassium is totally normal and required by the body. It’s actually hard to get the RDA of potassium.

        It’s just that too much stops your heart.

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        It’s more the pure sodium part. Stop, drop, and roll would be a lot more important if it was pure sodium.

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        Not at all the statement of a moron: in colloquial usage yeah, salt is sodium chloride, but in in a chemistry setting it is not just sodium chloride. In this case it probably has potassium chloride — a sodium-free salt.

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        This demon is trying to trick you into spending twice as much on summoning salt because they have stock in the company!

        Also it won’t work and demons will eat your ass in a non-consensual way, salt is used as a symbol of purity and the additives/mixture by definition make it non-pure (salt).

        No, the question really is whether potassium chloride by itself would work, also being pure (potassium) salt.

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      Imagine getting murdered by faeries because you used low-salt salt for your magic circle like an idiot.

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      That’s just propoganda by big demons. They want to you to buy salt so they can season you. Why do you think people say garlic will repel vampires. Sheple, all are sheple. That’s just vampire propoganda.

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    They can’t call it a salt substitute because it still has salt. Some people are told to cut down on salt, so would be attracted to something that tastes salty but has less salt in it. I get why it’s funny, but it seems reasonable to me.

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      At least it doesn’t say organic… since salt is an inorganic compound and that’d be straight up silly.

      What I’m wondering is does this salt have extra filler or is it made of something else that tastes salty without being actual salt? How does one make it have 50% less sodium without selling a smaller size container? Marketing is fucking ridiculous sometimes. Just say what’s in it!

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        It’s less sodium as in NaCl, and more potassium (why do English have so awful names for elements?) KCl. It’s still salt, and it taste similar to NaCl.

        Normal table salt is ~99% NaCl

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          Thanks for the info! I found it super confusing the way the packaging advertised the product.

          I’m also a bit cynical when it comes to “health” food so I assumed it was some bullshit marketing ploy. Good to know it’s an actual thing this time.

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        At least it doesn’t say organic… since salt is an inorganic compound and that’d be straight up silly.

        Except that, in food, “organic” just means no pesticides or synthetic chemicals were used in making it.

        No fillers, just two ingredients: iodized sodium and potassium chloride.

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          Isn’t that what all salt is? When they put stuff like that on a product like salt it starts to lose meaning and is clearly a marketing gimmick aimed at health conscious people.

          I’m not okay with taking advantage of people who want to be healthy. As with everything marketing its about stretching the truth to outright lying and it seriously needs to be more regulated so words like organic actually mean something to consumers and we know what we’re buying. If they want to lable salt as organic, it should say “uses organic cornstarch as an anti-caking agent.” The cornstarch is organic, not the salt itself because it can’t be.

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            No, they replaced half of the sodium chloride with potassium chloride. It really is half salt. No one is being taken advantage of.

            There are a lot of words on packaging that are unregulated, but “organic” isn’t one of them. If they use it, it has to mean what the FDA says it means, and that’s not the opposite of inorganic.

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      And then put twice the amount because it’s only half as salty. Still dumb imo.

      It’s only good if you are deficient in potassium though, which I believe a lot of people are (although I don’t know how easily our body can get potassium from KCl)

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        KCl is 60% as salty as NaCl, which means lite salt is ~80% as salty as regular salt, so it should still result in less sodium being used overall. KCl also reduces blood pressure, acting like an opposite to NaCl, which raises the blood pressure. Lite salt is great for people with high blood pressure.

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      The government doesn’t want you to know that you can pair that with a nice glass of pure chloride

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    It’s half potassium chloride, that can cause you heart issues too if you get to much of it.

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      There is a risk if you have an extreme intake, but it’s going to be pretty hard to do that by seasoning your food with lite salt unless you’re doing something really extreme. Most people have a RDA of at least 2g of potassium, and I would hazard a guess that most people who are being told by their doctors to cut down on sodium intake probably aren’t getting a ton of potassium from what they’re eating.

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        Wikipedia quotes an LD50 of 2.6 g/kg in rats, so assuming (big assumption) that the figure is similar for humans, an average 80 kg human would need to consume 208 g of the stuff. Which is probably the whole container’s worth.

        I’m sure you’d die of other problems from eating that much salt before you die of KCl poisoning.

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          Also depends on how that LD50 was measured. Oral lethal dose is a lot higher than intravenous.

          Fun fact: KCl is used in lethal injections to stop the heart.

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      True, but doctors will still recommend it because of you tell people they can’t have any seasoning they might just ignore you.
      If you tell them they can have the other stuff, they’ll find it much easier to comply and it’s still much better.

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      Stay hydrated and have good working kidneys and you should be fine. But that can be said for sodium chloride as well.

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    We Dutch call it “Kalium zout” or Low Sodium Salt. The brand I buy is iodized and has 70% less natrium. And yeah, it is for health reasons, like heart condition, high blood pressure and other medical ailments, or people who want to eat less salt in their diets.

    Anyway, what you are looking at is 100% salt and original op (the one on xitter) is an idiot.

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    While this uses potassium chloride to cut down on sodium, does a mix of sodium chloride and MSG have the same effect? MSG has sodium, but it looks like not much per unit weight.

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      I’m guessing no? You’re probably still using around the same amount of sodium.

      Some studies have shown that reducing sodium salt intake by replacing it with potassium can help reduce blood pressure, so that’s why this exists (or at least why it has some credibility).

      Of course, I am not a doctor, so take this all with a grain of salt 😅.

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        Yeah, I’ve been looking into this for that exact reason. It does seem medically beneficial to replace an appreciable portion of your sodium with potassium, for those of us with high blood pressure.

        However I don’t really see the point of this. Maybe there are some people who add a lot of salt to stuff, but I believe most of us consume excess sodium through processed and restaurant food. Added salt is not enough of overall sodium intake to matter. It’s much more important to watch the sodium content in your food choices, notably eat less processed food

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          If your doctor asks you to reduce salt intake to 50% and everything you eat you make yourself, the equation is simple - use this product.

          If you get most of your salt intake from restaurant and processed foods… this will only make a minor improvement.

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          Sorry for awakening an old thread, but in case anyone reads it ….

          I just read some articles (sorry, no link) that puts some numbers on this. It claimed:

          • typical American gets 70% of their sodium intake from restaurant meals
          • typical American gets 11% of their sodium from adding salt
          • US RDA of potassium is about 10 bananas, so almost no one gets it
          • somehow I thought Chipotle had less sodium than other fast food, but one burrito is over the recommended limit of sodium

          So by far the best way to reduce sodium is to eat out less frequently. Reducing or substituting salt won’t make much difference, especially for those of us who don’t typically add salt

          Potassium appears to counteract sodium’s bad effects, but it’s difficult to get enough. Eating bananas or avocados won’t do it. Salt substitutes won’t do it

          There were also warnings that

          • too much potassium in salt substitute leaves a metallic taste
          • potassium can conflict with some high blood pressure medication
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    is the sodium interchanged with sugar? i would be dissapointed if not, its the least they can do

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      It’s salt. It’s 100% salt. Half of it is sodium chloride and, to keep the label honest, the other half is potassium chloride.