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All this electoralism talk just makes me go like
They’ll pay for their crimes one day.
Honestly man I can’t even say I am shocked. Saw it coming from miles away.
That’s cause you’re not in a cult. :)
You mean to say that –
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switching candidates halfway through the election
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having your replacement candidate be one of the few people somehow less popular than Biden
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having said candidate go around openly endorsing genocide
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telling leftists to ignore this, because genocide isn’t really a big deal
– isn’t some kind of winning strategy to Unite the Left?
The funniest part is that
- switching candidates halfway through the election
- having your replacement candidate be one of the few people somehow less popular than Biden
Isn’t a wholly accurate representation, as she surged after initially replacing Biden because she briefly represented “hope and change” …then she immediately threw all that momentum away to try and win over racist right wingers as a black woman.
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Now I wonder if Trump will actually implement those 100% tariffs he threatened against dedollarizing countries.
Wait so he is threatening me with the faster collapse of the American Empire?
Hopefully, but IMO its irrelevant which party controls which branch of government. Nobody’s stopping the collapse train.
Overall I like that murica’s international standing takes big respectability hits, and less countries are likely to go along with whatever imperialist venture they have.
That’s the thing, I’m not even sure if it will be faster than if the Dems got in because they’re historically more prone to warmongering, thus getting the Empire into unwinnable military wars rather than economic ones.
Well… dems on Twitter are salivating over a completely flattened Gaza as revenge for their loss. Very cool…
Yup. Saw a few of them already saying they look forward to buying property in ethnically cleansed Gaza/West Bank.
Also this:
They really cannot keep their masks on can they?
To them anti-fascism is just a vibe, and social justice causes just an aesthetic, a way to signal team loyalty. When push comes to shove and they get scratched all of their feigned sympathy with the oppressed goes out the window and they become foaming at the mouth Nazis indistinguishable from MAGA.
lmao thats your average liberal right there
you act like this was not always going to be the response, there level of care was not that high anyway, they where willing to suport a canidate who told people who suported Gaza that now was not the time
Their true-crime fetish spills over into fantasizing about endless brown people being bombed by their own country.
For all Americans here, don’t forget the results don’t matter much, the fight continues and bourgeois democracy will never truly represent you anyway.
Accelerationist candidate let’s go!
Ain’t nobody stopping that train, its accelerating no matter which party’s in power.
Cope will be insane and I’m here for it! Zentler is done for.
Looks like it’s time to reread the eighteenth of Brumaire of Louis Napoleon!
Honey, wake up, new narrative just dropped.
If only the evil Russians didn’t email bomb threats, Kamala would have won. :( Damn you, Putin! You win again you dastardly villain!
She not only lost, she lost big. A few bomb threats didn’t make the difference.
Found the Putinbot.
I got mad for a second at your reply only to realise this is Lemmygrad lol
smh ruzzians can’t take a joke 😤
She lost the popular vote, and thats huge, as a rule of thumb you should just be able to assume the dems will win the popular vote.
Mueller round 2, go!
Liberals do need their theatre. Maybe lin-manual miranda can write this one.
It’s officially Joever
Seriously though. Surely the ~30 year Clintonian dynasty died last night, right? I have no idea what might replace it.
My bet is next time they’ll go with a white silver-haired respectable guy that can emulate bill clinton energy, somebody like blinken.
I feel your :blinken-pain:
You know, I was trying to figure out how I feel about the results because like, I knew no matter which it would be, it wasn’t going to be a big difference to me (both genocidal imperialists, ya know). But like, I think what I figured out is I have some secondhand anxiety about it? Like I have some anxiety about how other people are going to react to it, because people have been hyped up to such a degree to believe it’s a world-ending scenario.
While not a world ending scenario, it’s incredibly uncomfortable to have a president that knowingly hates my people for having the wrong skin color and would be perfectly okay with genociding us.
The only difference is optics. Liberals think it, fascists say it.
This election has proven that the fearmongering for the Greens by the Democrats was unfounded. The Greens won 0,7% of the vote in Michigan and the Dems there lost by more than a percent
Technically, it could also mean that people who didn’t want to vote for a major party abstained from the election altogether (e.g. why wait for an hour and a half if you think not voting at all would accomplish the same thing?)
if you think not voting at all would accomplish the same thing
It doesn’t achieve the same thing though. There are all sorts of narratives that can be made up about why people decided not to vote that the establishment can use to excuse its own horrific behavior. A vote for a third party is a much clearer message, and it helps said third parties build momentum, even if just on a local level.
On the other hand, i won’t judge people who decided that not voting was the best way for them to protest, i live in Europe and voting is probably easier here, barely takes a couple minutes and we usually have polling stations within walking distance. Which is why personally i still go out and vote, not for a third party because here even the third, fourth and fifth parties are neoliberal warmonger Washington puppets, but for a party that i know will barely get a few thousand votes in my entire state, but at least is anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist and anti-genocide.
It’s depressing but it is what it is and you have to start somewhere even if small. The most important work we do as communists happens between elections anyway. Elections in a bourgeois dictatorship are the sideshow of the sideshow. Organizing, agitating and educating is what we should be putting the majority of our effort into.
Case in point:
Now i’m not sure if this graphic is accurate, and i’ve seen other reports that put Stein around 20% in this district, but either way it’s a powerful message of what happens when your candidate unapologetically supports and enables a genocide. I wish we could have seen these kinds of results for third parties all across the US, but at least this is a start.
I can’t believe Hitler beat Hitler, this is the end of democracy
The US election system is so fucked up (by design) that it’s kinda funny that the dems would be more successful if they tried to move more to the right than they already are. A shit ton of people in the US already think Kamala is too far left (somehow) so moving more right would literally get a lot of their vote because there’s a good amount of right-wingers who don’t like Trump. Plus, if you convince some republicans to vote democrat it’s like you’re getting two votes (you get one vote, and republicans lose one).
What? This is literally the strategy they tried which just lost.
They call her “too liberal” because she a black woman. She laughably tried to win over their vote with right wing policies.
The racist right ringers will always choose the racist white man who supports them 90% over a black woman who represents them 50%, hell even if she represented their beliefs more than Trump, she would still have been a black woman, which they wouldn’t like…they’re racist right wingers.
Sacrificing 3 left votes to gain 1 right vote will never work and the further right you go the more left votes you drop while picking up fewer and fewer right votes.
dems would be more successful if they tried to move more to the right than they already are. A shit ton of people in the US already think Kamala is too far left (somehow) so moving more right would literally get a lot of their vote because there’s a good amount of right-wingers who don’t like Trump. Plus, if you convince some republicans to vote democrat it’s like you’re getting two votes (you get one vote, and republicans lose one).
this was the exact strategy the Democrats just lost every branch of government with
