• sartalon@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Leftists are deluding themselves.

    Just like I deluded myself that there was no way Trump could win a second term.

    • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 month ago

      leftists very much believed trump could win a second term primarily because neoliberals would drop the ball during the election. we were warning liberals all year.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The second amendment was to defend Americans from tyranny. Trump is that. Use of force in self defense is justified.

      “The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, the cartridge box. Use them in that order.”

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        The second amendment was to defend Americans from tyranny.

        Oh, give it a break.

        2A legalized colonialist white supremacist violence against slave rebellions and native peoples. That’s it.

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        https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1002107670/historian-uncovers-the-racist-roots-of-the-2nd-amendment

        Tl;Dr the Constitutional Congress didn’t really believe in citizen militias providing a sufficient check on federal power. Some power, sure, but by and large the British armies destroyed the militias in the field, with only a few notable successes.

        They did, however, recognize that they could serve as a rapid reaction force for wars against natives and putting down slave revolts until the real army showed up. And, of course, militias could be rolled into a professional army and retrained, like what happened with the Civil War.

        That isn’t to say a genuinely popular revolt wouldn’t work, it’s just not what the 2nd was really about.

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              For the US to readopt slavery, wouldn’t it have to give slavery up first? The thirteenth amendment specifically allows for the enslavement of prisoners. That’s a big part of the reason we put so many blacks in prison.

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                That’s fair, but there’s at least some difference between chattel slavery and the prison industrial complex. If the traditionally inclined right wing “libertarian” voices that are the sorts of folks the Heritage Foundation hires have their way chattel slavery is back on the menu.

      • sartalon@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        If it actually happened, I would happily support it. The system is working as it is intended by those with the money to manipulate it. It needs to come down.

        I just don’t believe enough people really give a shit anymore.

        They fucking re-elected him. We know who he is, what the GoP really is. And they still fucking elected him.