I have heard from multiple people that eye contact is essential in letting a girl (or guy, I guess) know you’re interested.

But what is the 411 when it comes to said eye contact? Do you keep looking until she does? Do you then keep staring? Or is like looking at the sun? What’s the deal?

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    From my experience, if you make eye contact, look away briefly, then look back. If she’s still looking at you, hold eye contact for a moment and smile. If she likes you, she’ll likely smile back.

    If she’s purposely avoiding making eye contact the second time, don’t be a creep, carry on with your day 👌

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      No no no. If she’s purposely avoiding eye contact you have to stare at her with wide open eyes and a big smile.

      If she walks away follow her, if she starts running away from you, run after her. She’s telling you to come over.

      That’s how you conquer a woman /s

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    In her book “How to talk to anyone” Leil Lowndes suggests that when speaking with women it’s best to maintain constant, unbroken eye contact to signal attention and interest. She goes on to note that even when engaged in conversation with multiple people one should act as if their eyes are constantly glued to the woman, only briefly looking away when another person is speaking and behaving as if your eyes are irresistibly drawn back to the woman of interest. She believes this formula is best in male to female conversations and female to female conversation.

    By contrast, she notes that when engaged in a male to male conversation, one should regularly break eyecontact as not to be perceived as a threat. However, one should still act as if your eyes are being irresistibly drawn back to theirs.

    … I have no idea what Lowndes’s qualifications are and frankly this sounds like a formula written by an alien trying to understand humans but hey maybe theres some merrit to it idk

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      She goes on to note that even when engaged in conversation with multiple people one should act as if their eyes are constantly glued to the woman, only briefly looking away when another person is speaking and behaving as if your eyes are irresistibly drawn back to the woman of interest.

      Honestly, as a woman, if a man started doing this to me in a group I’d be freaked the fuck out

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        Yep. As if women would never perceive men as a threat based on the same signals men would use to perceive threat.

        Men, logical and hunter warrior manly men. Women, attention seekers. Therefore, stare down pretty women to show manly manness.

        Alpha bro evo psych is so wild.

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          Jesus christ dude

          She goes on to note that even when engaged in conversation with multiple people one should act as if their eyes are constantly glued to the woman

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      Kinda sounds like it would be the same kind of thing that brought forth the whole “alpha male” thing.

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        I got that vibe throughout the entire book. It really smelled to me of someone trying to justify their own success when in reality she was probably just born with the right connections.

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      Okay but where’s the line between “unbroken eye contact to signal attention and interest” and just being a creepy stalker?

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        Well, I got the impression that the author was mostly hanging out in upper class society. So while she’s asserting that these rules are universally applicable, her frame of reference seemed to be mostly talking to people in situations like fundraisers and galas. I imagine she’s operating on a framework of always having some prior knowledge of the people she’s engaging with.

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    The idea is that y’all both Exchange a glance long enough to both notice, short enough to not creep each other out. A subtle smile to seal the deal.

    Then go say hi to confirm.

    If you feel awkward at any point either you suck or the answer is no, that’s where the real skills is at IMHO

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    Behavioral mirroring is often a sign of trust or comfort, and applies to levels of eye contact as well. If someone is subconsciously doing the same things you are doing (e.g. longer and more direct eye contact if you initiate, more or slower blinking, more smiling, more relaxed postures to mirror yours), those are good signs of interest.

    The converse is also true. If you are doing a lot of direct eye contact, and it seems like the other person is often looking away or closing up their body (crossed arms or rotating their torso away), that’s a sign to reduce some of those behavioral signals to match.

    I’d say there isn’t a “This exact amount” to most things, as people are all different in their preferences, and it’s more about adjusting up and down with someone, in response to their small non-verbal or body language signals. They will likely be doing the same with you. Also, as others have mentioned - you can be more direct with words. If this is something you’re unfamiliar with and there’s someone you trust, you can say directly that you’re uncertain and ask something like “I’m not great at knowing how much eye contact feels correct, could you let me know if you notice too much or too little?”. If they are friendly with you, they’ll also likely be comfortable with the small request.

    Also, just to say it - eye contact can mean the general eye area - it doesn’t mean your exact pupil to their exact pupil. I find that if I focus on the literal eye/pupil, then I get strained trying and keep attention on that specific small area. If I focus on the general eye area (nose/forehead/eyebrow/general eye) - they both can’t tell that it’s indirect eye contact and it’s easier to let my body auto pilot focus

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      In the US, 411 was/is a phone number you could call for “information”, specifically directory assistance. Many carriers no longer offer it.

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      411 is number I think they post on high ways when people don’t know where to find what they need in the area.

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    First you need to approach in a non threatening way. Ideally, by shouting “I am bigger and stronger than you! If I wanted you dead, you’d be by now!”

    That way they know you are NOT a threat

    If possible, make them feel secure by brandishing a weapon of any kind. That way they know they WILL be safe near you

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    One element is to smile with your teeth. If a woman smiles with her mouth closed, it’s just a friendly thing. Old gf told me that and a couple of decades of observation have born that truth out.

    Know that face you make when you really want to smile, but are obviously holding it in? That can work.

    Making strong eye contact, holding-it-in-smile, then blushing away, just to look again with a full-teeth smile sends a strong signal.

    OTOH, if you have to consciously think about how to compose your face, you better be a trained actor. Humans have a solid sixth-sense for the disingenuous.

    In any case, don’t merely stare without expression. Yikes.

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      Very cultural dependent. I’ve been quickly recognized as an American because we tend to smile with our teeth exposed more often than other cultures.

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    There’s a song:

    “I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see if I was looking back at her”

    And also an Islamic proscription against looking twice at a person of opposite sex since it signals interest.

    So at least one sort of look that signals interest is the looking again. I also think the kind of sideways look with a smile is good.

    Do not go for intense and smoldering. That is some sort of advanced level shit that we civilians cannot manage, it will go wrong.

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    Honestly? By being genuinely interested in a person and not faking anything.

    Trying to look a certain way nearly always screams fake and uncanny, just show emotions the way you’re used to!

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    The trick is to never look away. Stare till they notice, then keep staring. Have to get up to use the restroom? Maintain eye contact as long as possible and reestablish it the moment you’re back in sight. If they get up, the responsibility to maintain that eye contact is on you. Make sure to stay within eyesight, following them if necessary. This is your chance, we’re rooting for you!