Few words from you, even less substance. Two questions were asked and answered:
I ask again, where has China, “taken those islands”?
China has “taken those islands” and that area of sea into their territory. Obviously it’s still in exactly the same place, but territory is being taken away from other nations.
For example, the US and Canada both claim several islands and territories owned by the other. Canadian maps show they own it, and American maps show they own it. Have either of the two countries “annexed” that territory?
There’s a handful of disputed territories between the US and Canada, and each situation is different. Some of those might have been annexed at some point or another.
Care to answer my questions?
How is China expanding its territory and claiming that of other nations’ not annexing? If it isn’t that, then what is it?
Rarely are entire countries annexed. Territory is annexed. I provided 2-3 countries that China has annexed territory from.
Yes, each situation is different. The point came after that, where your reading comprehension apparently failed. The point was “Some of those might have been annexed at some point or another.” In other words, the US and Canada probably have been annexing territory from one another.
Dunning-Kruger is in full effect here lmfao.
You probably don’t know what that means, but ironically you’re correct - only it’s not me exhibiting cognitive bias.
You still haven’t answer my questions. Were they too hard for you?
The latest maps claim territory well within 100km of the Philipines’ coastline, and it’s practically right on the coast of a Malaysian island.
Examples include Scarborough Shoal off the Philipines, the Spratly Islands, and I think there was some Japanese administrated island that I can’t be bothered to look up right now.
Philipines, Malaysia, and maybe Japan. That’s 2-3. You could throw in Vietnam as well if you want.
I am a bit of an idiot, yes. Because I choose to argue with you and get covered in shit with you, in spite of the fact that you apparently like it. But I’m clearly not wrong, and that’s what matters to me.
How is China expanding its territory and claiming that of other nations’ not annexing? If it isn’t that, then what is it?
If China’s not physically there to claim it, they’re not really expanding their territory. South Korea considers itself to own all the territory of North Korea, but it can’t enforce that, so their claim doesn’t really matter.
You don’t need to physically be there to annex territory. The map itself is the claim of annexation. You probably can’t assert the claim without being there, but the claim is still annexation on its own.
Furthermore, China is sailing its warships through those areas as if it were their own territory. So they are physically there and attempting to assert their claim.
Korea is a little different in the way the country was split up by the victors of WW2. However, if you acknowledge the sovereignty of North Korea, then South Korea is also trying to annex that territory by claiming it as their own. South Korea’s claims are a little bit more hollow than China’s.
You don’t need to physically be there to annex territory. The map itself is the claim of annexation.
Maybe, but there’s not much value in fighting over definitions. De facto, they have not gained additional territory regardless of any claims China may or may not be making.
sailing its warships through those areas as if it were their own territory.
Oh, are countries not allowed to sail ships through international waters now? Is the US annexing these territories when it does the same thing?
Maybe, but there’s not much value in fighting over definitions. De facto, they have not annexed anything.
This is nonsense. You’re attempting to redefine what annexation is to suit your argument.
Oh, are countries not allowed to sail ships through international waters now? Is the US annexing these territories when it does the same thing?
China themselves claim that their boats are patrolling their own territorial waters when sailing in these areas. The US and Canada and others claim they are sailing in international waters under international maritime law, or with the permission of the nations whose water they are sailing through.
But the big difference is that the US isn’t making a claim to any territory. China is, and then they’re attempting to assert that claim with their navy. That is clearly annexation.
You’re attempting to redefine what annexation is to suit your argument.
Fair enough, I did not phrase the above point correctly. I have edited the comment accordingly.
That is clearly annexation.
Since you keep using this word, I guess I’ll bite a bit longer in fighting over definitions…
Courtesy of Merriam-Webster, annexation is incorporating “(an additional geographic area) within the domain of a country, state, etc.” I don’t think it’s self-evident that just sailing a ship by some islands is “clearly annexation”
In any case, it’s not really important whether it counts as “annexation” or not. What difference does it make if China makes this claim if there’s nobody there to enforce it?
Few words from you, even less substance. Two questions were asked and answered:
Care to answer my questions?
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You probably don’t know what that means, but ironically you’re correct - only it’s not me exhibiting cognitive bias.
You still haven’t answer my questions. Were they too hard for you?
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Philipines, Malaysia, and maybe Japan. That’s 2-3. You could throw in Vietnam as well if you want.
I am a bit of an idiot, yes. Because I choose to argue with you and get covered in shit with you, in spite of the fact that you apparently like it. But I’m clearly not wrong, and that’s what matters to me.
If China’s not physically there to claim it, they’re not really expanding their territory. South Korea considers itself to own all the territory of North Korea, but it can’t enforce that, so their claim doesn’t really matter.
You don’t need to physically be there to annex territory. The map itself is the claim of annexation. You probably can’t assert the claim without being there, but the claim is still annexation on its own.
Furthermore, China is sailing its warships through those areas as if it were their own territory. So they are physically there and attempting to assert their claim.
Korea is a little different in the way the country was split up by the victors of WW2. However, if you acknowledge the sovereignty of North Korea, then South Korea is also trying to annex that territory by claiming it as their own. South Korea’s claims are a little bit more hollow than China’s.
Maybe, but there’s not much value in fighting over definitions. De facto, they have not gained additional territory regardless of any claims China may or may not be making.
Oh, are countries not allowed to sail ships through international waters now? Is the US annexing these territories when it does the same thing?
This is nonsense. You’re attempting to redefine what annexation is to suit your argument.
China themselves claim that their boats are patrolling their own territorial waters when sailing in these areas. The US and Canada and others claim they are sailing in international waters under international maritime law, or with the permission of the nations whose water they are sailing through.
But the big difference is that the US isn’t making a claim to any territory. China is, and then they’re attempting to assert that claim with their navy. That is clearly annexation.
Fair enough, I did not phrase the above point correctly. I have edited the comment accordingly.
Since you keep using this word, I guess I’ll bite a bit longer in fighting over definitions…
Courtesy of Merriam-Webster, annexation is incorporating “(an additional geographic area) within the domain of a country, state, etc.” I don’t think it’s self-evident that just sailing a ship by some islands is “clearly annexation”
In any case, it’s not really important whether it counts as “annexation” or not. What difference does it make if China makes this claim if there’s nobody there to enforce it?