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The shutdown will halt about $8 billion a month in federal food assistance. Walmart captures 24% of all SNAP shopper spending, according to Numerator’s 2025 SNAP Evolution report—triple Kroger’s share and far ahead of Costco, Amazon and Sam’s Club.
Walmart was the first retailer to accept SNAP online in all 50 states in 2023 and launched the Walmart+ Assist program, which offers half-price memberships for those receiving aid.
“If SNAP payments stop, spending by the lowest income groups will fall,” said Neil Saunders, managing director of data and analytics firm GlobalData. “Walmart gets a plurality of the spending, so it will be hit the hardest.”
This was somewhat epiphanic for me.
I already recognized companies such as Walmart were subsidizing pay through social programs such as SNAP and essential funneling/laundering tax payer money to their executives.
This headline made me further realize they’re not only making taxpayers subsidize wages, they’ve also effectively turned the USD into a form of company scrip. While that scrip can be spent at some other locations I bet a large percent of funneled right back to e.g. Walmart itself. If you already work at Walmart it makes spending your SNAP benefit there easier.
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I’ll be quite honest, Walmart’s bottom line would be the least of my worries personally
Even regional grocers will feel this too. Any snap loss, is loss where ebt is accepted. So many different markets…
I’m more worried about the SNAP recipients. Small businesses second and Walmart not at all.
Walmart also relies on the government to cover their employees health insurance and food assistance. They might have to start providing health insurance to their employees otherwise we might to start hearing about quiet quitting again.
And it’s Walmarts fault. Has been. Always was. Always will be. This is literally their economic model at play.
FUCK EM.
The Waltons were major named donors to the Heritage Foundation.
employees on snap
Walmart would love to start paying people script.
Trump might have just dog walked himself into something good 😂. It never fails. He fucks things up so bad that the economy collapses and cost of living goes down.
A sad day when corporate greed aligns with people’s needs. Welcome to new amerika.
Well, at least some good will come from this disaster.
GOOD! Fuck the family monopolizing the true message he originally had!!! They’re all fucking trash so honestly fuck Walmart!!!
Everyone loses here though. Walmart will only lose money because people can’t spend their SNAP money there and it’s not like they’ll be spending it at more ethical stores.
Tell that to the “original ‘Walmart’ family” before they sold out and tell that to Drumpf who told us that prices would be lower ON DAY ONE and NOTHING is true. Food prices are still high, no checks of $5k nor recently $2k plus eggs are still grossly high and gas prices are not nearly what he said….
So the federal government subsidizes not only Walmart employee wages, but Walmarts grocery sales too? And Mamdani is apparently crazy for saying New York should run its own grocery stores that actually benefit the community instead of making the Walton family richer.
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Wait, I wonder, who was funding that message 🤔
Alice Walton, the world’s richest woman, listed her address as a post office box in Bentonville, Arkansas — Walmart’s hometown — when she made a $100,000 donation in August, on top of a $100,000 donation in April. Walton has little history of political giving in New York, beyond donating to pro-charter school groups and candidates. Mamdani has said he opposes the expansion of charter schools.
She was one of the first to bitch openly that tariffs means higher cost.
Is that the bitch that has gotten off scot free with literally hundreds of DUIs?
I dunno why it says “If SNAP goes dark” becuase it already did go dark. It’s already been a week woth no payments and it looks like nothing is going to change that. SNAP has already “gone dark”.
judges are forcing the USDA to pay snap this month… latest ruling was by today.
it’s not dark yetNever call it a good day while the sun is still up.
So odd seeing libs talk you down in this thread, and not do basic research.
I haven’t really been following all of this because I don’t need SNAP (yet), but it seems like it’s not hard to figure this out with Google.
Hopefully more states figure out how to allocate the USDA’s emergency funds before more people starve.
it’s doomer stuff i think… they can only scream about how horrible everything is.
if anything good happens, no it didn’t.
that or bots.
seems like a bot thing to not have live google access
SCOTUS already overturned it
no they didn’tIt’s literally all over the news: https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-asks-appeals-court-promptly-halt-ruling/story?id=127294307
yep, i saw that and: fuck… fucking fucks….
seems like some will still be funded?
Happy Thanksgiving, btw
Judge says something.
Trump admin says “no lol”
naive oversimplification
Is it? What is the more nuanced view?
Trump administration: “Good! Maybe some of those poors will die and save us the trouble of removing their tents!” [roflol]
the USDA is operated by thousands of people, the head is appointed by trump.
if the head of the usda is facing jail for contempt vs maybe getting fired, he’ll fund snap.
and that’s exactly what happened today, ebt was funded. trump is appealing but the money is there.
my state funded it and was waiting for a commitment by the usda, apparently they got it.
trump and his administration have complied with other court orders, they’ve defied some… but they eventually give in when appeals run out.
a big part of the shutdown is that they’ve slipped in legislation to strip judges of their powers to enforce their orders… such as nationwide injunctions, holding people in contempt, and sending federal marshals out to arrest people in contempt of court… they currently still have those powers.
it’s quite complicated.Was it the head of the USDA withholding funds? I was under the impression that the administration said there were no funds, and then there was no way to release the funds, and then that it would be too complex to do so with any expediency.
Why are they appealing the ruling, do you think?
The head of the USDA does what Trump says or she gets fired… but she’s still the one with direct control.
The USDA already has a contingency fund, for this very sort of thing. They were refusing to fund SNAP until a judge forced them too…. they had this money set aside before the government shutdown, and December is still uncertain.
Why they’re appealing it is, id assume, what they’ve been saying about hating all social safety net type programs, and really it’s about rich people paying taxes….
they’re vindictive enough to use any opportunity to fuck with any program as much as they can get away with…
Is it? SNAP hasn’t been paid to anyone yet.
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Some states were able to use some state funds to pay some SNAP recipients. My family hasn’t gotten anything at all in NY state.
The only naive oversimplification here is believing that when the USDA is ordered to do something by a judge that means Trump automatically does it.
Snap is dark. There was a court order to turn on the lights. Those lights have not turned on yet. Don’t be pedantic if you can’t bring the receipts.
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But that is exactly what is happening. They are ignoring the courts.
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https://www.newsweek.com/snap-tracker-states-that-have-paid-benefits-november-11010336
Only 8 states have been funded…and as quoted in the article, “although it remains unclear when full benefits will be paid and where the funding will come from”.
So no, it isn’t clear at all if it is being federally funded, or if the states are banking on getting paid back.
So please refrain from sounding like “I got mine so fuck off”
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/07/usda-tells-states-snap-benefits-shutdown-00642403
nice way to rephrase what i’m saying into something selfish when all that i’m saying is you’re arrogantly wrong….
you went from “none never” to “only 8 have been funded so far”.
yeah they’re all funded each state has to figure out how to handle that because it’s state implemented
No state has received full funding for their snap/ebt as of this morning. Some funds are being released by the federal government to states but not fully, not uniformly, and with serious delay. I can’t find any credible evidence that anyone has definitely received their full November benefits as scheduled. In fact, the USDA has told states they can’t fund the cards and then be reimbursed by the federal government under current rules and the USDA has stated, as of this morning, that they will not fully fund benefits due to the shutdown.
I don’t believe you are telling the truth.
https://www.google.com/search?q=oregon+ebt+paid+today
i think you have too much faith in your own ability to research things.
It’s not. This has literally been government policy for 2025.
they have defied and appealed rulings, some have been upheld and complied with….
what you’re talking about is what they want to do and one reason why the government is shut down right now.
Sounds pretty accurate to me.
Don’t count your chickens until they hatch. Or in this case, don’t count your SNAP until it’s actually in your pocket.
it’s in my pocket right now. it was fully funded today.
I’m truly shocked that they actually paid. That’s some good news. I’m glad the people in need are getting when we owe them.
My mothers has not been paid nor is pending. Some states used state funding to pay out, most have not.
Yeah I’m always saddened to see anecdotal “it works for me” or “it doesn’t work for me” comments about something like this, where it’s super complex and until we know the rules are in place and enforced, we should assume it is not working for those who need it.
me too… next month is still scary
Awesome I’m happy for you and everybody else who needs it
Justice Department announced they are appealing, so who knows?
Imagine being the one who appeals poor people eating. I hope they fucking rot (the justice dept)
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A piece of paper is worthless. Can’t buy anything with that.
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Thank you. Didn’t make the news around here.
you’re welcome… not all states have paid out yet but some already have:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/07/usda-tells-states-snap-benefits-shutdown-00642403Would have expected malicious inaction.
idk how much I believe it considering he’s reportedly still looking to block the order so at best he’s trying to quickly pay out some red states before appeal or something.
Oh yes this administration has such respect.
read the news, the usda paid up today
“it’s not dark yet”
Tell that to the people without food.
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The article is from Oct 29. I doubt the SNAP situation is news to many on the fediverse. I shared it more so because A) What a tone deaf headline, and B) To share the epiphany it caused me.
California is paying full SNAP benefits starting this morning. California cares. Trump, Mike Johnson, and The entire GOP couldn’t give less fucks about anyone else.
It’s the Democrats fault because they won’t cancel health care so we have to cancel food assistance - every republican I know
Considering that Walmart is one of the largest corporations benefiting from deliberately underpaying their workers and telling them it’s the government’s job to feed them, I find that my field of fucks is barren.
SNAP is basically a tax break for walmart. Underpay the staff and let the government cover their food, which is often bought at walmart.
Yeah Walmart would rather just have
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip
Don’t even need the government involved, which is ideal for them
Oh no. Not Walmart. Leave it to America to be more concerned about the shareholders and not the people within the borders.
We can be concerned about both things equally, can’t we?
Edit I used the word “concerned” because I was responding to the comment above me and he said “concerned”. “Interested” would be a more suitable word because this is an interesting topic. We’re interested that Walmart is taking a hit and we’re also interested that snap people are taking a hit. It’s interesting. Tragic for the snap people but interesting for the demise of walmart.
Nah. Having seen small towns crushed when Walmart comes in and all the mom & pop shops close. So then your options to shop are Walmart or Amazon or drive to the next town. Fuck em.
Why would anyone avoid their local Walmart just to drive to the next town to use their Walmart?..
You ask that question, in a lot of rural areas the small walmart in town is run down and doesn’t get as much stock. It reduces slowly over time until shopping at that walmart is a waste of time and people go to the next one. So Walmart closes down the “Underperforming” walmart forcing people to go to the bigger one few towns over, centralizing and cutting the amount of staff/delivery locations walmart has to deal with, making them more money.
Can’t get in the car and say “no, not that one. Let’s go the nice one”if you don’t put in the work.
Why are you as equally worried about Walmart shareholders as you are starving people?
Ok then go back & re-read my comment & the comment I was replying to, and swap the word “concerned” for “interested.”
Equally would be tough for me. The cutting shifts of the workers will suck though. That’s near $ billion that doesn’t need to be shelved and onwards. (Possibly ordered).
That’s so much money. It’s immensely frustrating that any assistance programs we come up with ultimately become a massive wealth transfer to big companies.
SNAP, subsidized student loans/forgiveness, Medicaid/Medicare, etc. The market will just happily absorb the free taxpayer money and then still raise prices on everyone because of the increased demand.
and then still raise prices on everyone because of the increased demand.
Ostensibly because of increased demand, actually due to greed.
In a world not run by the rich, for the rich this wouldn’t be an issue. Just tax large corporations over a certain size at a slightly higher rate and redistribute it back down to the poorest, turning it into a loop.
This isn’t new for Walmart. They have ‘how to apply for food stamps’ employee programs. They have food drives for their employees during the holidays b/c they can’t afford food. All while taking in obscene profits.
Thanks for the reminder of why I never shop there. Disgusting.
They have ‘how to apply for food stamps’ employee programs.
It took me forever to understand this wasn’t just a roast of Walmart, but that they were speaking literally. It sounds dystopian as hell.
Welcome to capitalism.
