• Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    From the article:

    Nvidia declined 7%, Oracle, and AMD dropped 8.8%, Meta and Microsoft dropped around 4%.

    These are amounts that stocks often fluctuate. Percentages are what matter. Phrasing it as a big dollar value was lost is always manipulative framing.

    The market is big. There are more than a few shares. A small change becomes a big number when multiplied by the size of the entire market. $800 billion is basically meaningless.

    The numbers are fake anyway. Market cap is the value if all existing shares were sold at the current price. Nonsense. Selling all the shares would change the price in some way.

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    Never have I seen greater evidence that the ultra-wealthy are fundamentally catastrophic for the economy.

    Aside from the last like 100 billion pieces of evidence that came before this well predicted one.

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    This is all utter horror, the Great Depression is already upon us in the coming weeks or months, that’s what a fun year 2026 is going to be.

    And then, as a pretext, they’ll introduce a digital concentration camp with CBDC.

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    This is what Trump wants to justify lowering rates. Trump wants catastrophe and terror to claim hes the only one who can fix it. When in actuality he caused the problems, has declared 7 bankruptcies in his business Career, and has now bankrupted America by having a shutdown and not paying it’s employees, snap programs, cancelation of USAID and many much more.

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      I went through the oil embargo 70s, a couple of Reagan recessions, a Bush I recession, all before 2000, when Republicans really got their nation-destroying chops together for some proper, world class economic irresponsibility.

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        Those weren’t on the scale of the housing and Covid crashes. Dot con was pretty bad, but still nothing like 2007/8

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          The 70s was really terrible, and lasted nearly an entire decade, but yeah, everything between that and 2008 was secondary.

          Still, it demonstrates that the economy is usually at its worst under Republicans, and disastrous under MAGAs.

          They have the self-described reputation as economically responsible, but in reality, they always screw up the economy. Carter, Clinton, Obama, and Biden all entered office with an active Republican economic downturn of their own making, and we’re forced to clean up the Republican mess before they could get their own agenda underway.

          Biden not only had an economic recovery to navigate, he also had to launch an emergency Covid vaccination program, and he accomplished both ahead of schedule. If he had dealt with the severe national security threat of MAGA, and crushed them, and kept them out of office under the 14th Amendment, he’d be one of the Top 10 presidents of all time. Instead, his Covid/Economic successes will be forgotten, and he’ll be in the bottom 15.

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            Yeah the failure to prosecute, mixed with allowing McConnell to stack the court instead of seating Obama’s justice, is what will define the next decade, and hopefully not much more.

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        I’m an Oregon Trailer, are you counting the savings and loan crash, or am I missing one in the 90s?

        • savings & loan
        • dot com
        • 9/11
        • housing bubble
        • Covid
        • AI
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      I finally had some 401k savings that I was getting this year. I just put it into a guaranteed fund, I ain’t gambling with this house of cards.

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      It’s good to have crashes regularly, that’s when you can buy on the cheap

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      That’s more or less how I deal with any economic numbers these days. Just one mans salary. No big deal.

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      He eventually buys up all ai companies for nickels on the megadollar and copy strikes all unauthorized ai providers.

      The only resistance left is the decentralised group of people running outdated and decensored LLM’s for erotic RPG.

      We’re doomed

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    “The S&P 500 posted a loss of 1.6% this week.”

    Wow, it sure is popping. Nvidia is only down about 0.25% compared to a month ago. Lets keep this week’s pace of pullback going for a few more weeks and maybe then we can talk about a pop. The bubble is so absurd that 800 billion is relatively not even that much in percentage terms.

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    It always amazes me just how stupid all these billionaires actually are. It just highlights the fact that they did not actually “earn” that wealth, in the first place. If it were truly a matter of talent and skill, they wouldn’t be crashing the economy every five to ten years…but here we are, for the fifth(?) time in the last few decades?

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      You may think it’s stupid but these people are still going to make ass loads of money out of this entire ordeal. Because the entire system is rigged in their favor.

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        Its like the movie Big Short where despite news of bankruptcies stocks kept going up for a long time. It was when the banks shored up their own shorts that they actually let the market crash.

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      Crashing the economy is only stupid if you don’t have enough liquidity to capitalize on it. That or if you actually give a shit about people.

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      The crashes are deliberate. It allows them to scoop up infrastructure for pennies on the dollar. It’s not a coincidence that the largest ever upward transfer of wealth occurred during COVID. That was the elite consolidating their holdings. And evidently, they’re not exactly satisfied yet and want even more.

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      They aren’t stupid, they are gambling and they toss their weight to stack the bet in their favor long enough so that they can cash out and not be left with the bag when it crashes.

      Every recession, richs get richer and we get poorer.

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        The real stupid takes are the correlations between wealth and intelligence we made along the way.

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        In a way it requires you to be an apex predator of your own species. They are necessarily stupid but greedy and psychosocially fucked. Maybe smart in certain ways but blindingly stupid in others. And also cannibals, which occurs to me now, since they basically hunt and consume the essence of poorer humans. Can we make that cannon?

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    Oh no?! The imaginary money that doesn’t actually exist now has less than before?! Whaaa! I’m sad now.