• dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
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    1 day ago

    When was the last time China invaded a country again? I’ll wait…

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        14 hours ago

        Wow China invaded… themselves???

        They took their city back from foreign imperialists. Get fucking real.

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          13 hours ago

          Foreign imperialists consisting of residents that want their freedom who already were independent from their prior occupiers?

          This is one way to say you don’t support freedom in a very literal anti democracy sense.

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            8 hours ago

            Hong Kong belongs to China. Not western imperialists. Their “freedom” can suck my nuts from the back.

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              7 hours ago

              You are quite literally ignoring the will of the people who lived there, who lived there before the prior take over too, being ruled by some third party they don’t want to be ruled by.

              How can you justify that?

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                7 hours ago

                lmao “ruled”. A city full of capitalists afraid their workers will be liberated with economic democracy. Boo fucking hoo.

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                  it was the workers who were protesting for an independent city state. you are letting one imperial power convince you it’s not an imperial power simply based on aesthetic. the idea that hong kong protestors on the ground were capital class is absurd. the people’s republic of china is communist/socialist in name and aesthetic only. it is functionally a state with a select few who control the means of production and uses that power to maintain control. being a capitalist-imperial power in apparent opposition to another does not justify being a capitalist-imperial power. the people of the world will not be made free by the CCP’s controlling power expanding their power. the people of the world will be made free by true solidarity amongst the workers in opposition to the three imperial powers of america, russia, and china

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        1 day ago

        Did you even read the first paragraph? It literally says China’s offence was retaliation after Vietnam invaded Cambodia. You’re comparing this to unprovoked western aggression. Y’all need literacy…

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          14 hours ago
          1. You asked for when china invaded another country not about their motivation. This is an example of China invading a sovereign country.
          2. Vietnam invaded Cambodia to stop a genocide.
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          19 hours ago

          If we are going to allow these excuses, every single bit of western aggression had its own flimsy justifications as well.

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        1 day ago

        LMAO 1951

        I suggest you learn about Tibet’s history as well. They were a slave state before China liberated them. Dalai Lama has been shitting and pissing himself for decades trying to get his slaves back lol.

        Those islands also belong to China. If you think defending it from western imperialism is “bullshit” you might not actually be a leftist…

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          I would caution against attributing altruistic motivations to the actions of nation states. The Spratly Islands are having their ecosystem trashed so the various powers can have a fucking dick measuring contest over imaginary lines on a map. So far a bunch of fishermen have been killed and irreplaceable coral reefs have been destroyed, all in service of building artificial islands for reasons that vary depending on the state actor.

          Debt trap diplomacy is a problem with every large power including BRICS, the west is currently the biggest offender because the World Bank and the IMF has the implicit backing of US military power projection. It is easier to strong arm “client states” into onerous loan terms and “free trade zones” when there is the threat of their nation being labeled as “supporting terrorism” and have a carrier battle group off shore within days.

          I have no reason to doubt that once that BRICS has the ability to project power, basically whenever China has several modern carrier battle groups, they won’t operate any differently than the west does now. The flag and justification will be different but the global south will continue to be exploited.