I honestly can’t imagine thinking this is what one wants to do with their time. Like, I accept that I can’t understand this sort of racism and such, but like, even if I was a bigot I can’t imagine deciding that what I’m going to do with one of my afternoons is drive around threatening a child’s birthday party.
But also, it amazes me that white Americans manage to feel aggrieved by black Americans even today. We’re the ones who keep fucking them over not the other way around.
the term is “radicalized” but it’s used so often it’s lost all meaning. I’ll bet good money these fucks were consuming conservative media, eventually one or both of them reached the tipping point where they basically thought they were soldiers in a day-to-day war, they feel emboldened because there are so many like-minded people bubbling up these days, they felt like they had a big community behind them thanks to the parasocial effects of conservative media.
These people obviously didn’t grow up right, but absent today’s fucked up hate pipeline that is conservative (read: almost all) media, I doubt they’d have been radicalized enough to do this.
It does show how right we were over the past decades, warning that latent racism had not ceased but instead was simmering under the surface of Everytown America.
Study those facial expressions very closely. Look at what’s happening here, because this is so indicative of the mindset of racists.
You look at most criminals at their sentencing, you tend to see either resignation, or remorse. There is neither here.
This is shock. This is disbelief. They did monstrous, horrifying things to innocent people, while fully believing that they had an absolute and unquestionable right to do those things.
When a guy robs a gas station, he knows it’s a crime. He’s simply reasoning that committing this crime is better for him than the alternatives. He knows it’s a risk. He knows he will be punished if he is caught.
But these people saw no risk in what they were doing. They believed that the world protect them and celebrate their actions. They believed that it was their right and their imperative to terrorize people of colour.
Good points. And they aren’t wrong if you look at how the country has changed negatively since Trump brought racism and hatred back.
brought back is a bit generous, if not naive… he heightened it though for sure; created a permission structure.
The notion that Trump brought those things back is part of the exact problem I’m highlighting.
They never went away. America continues to be a deeply racist country, the kind of country that make people like this not only a possibility, but an inevitability.
Sad but true.
Yup, those are the faces of finding out. What they did was monstrously evil, threatening to kill kids because they weren’t the white colour. I imagine he’s probably realizing as well that he’s going to be beaten a lot in jail for this. Given the incarceration rate of PoC being higher there’s going to be a welcome for him he’ll regret if they don’t immediately put him into solitary confinement. His life isn’t just ruined, he may very well die in prison.
The woman has fully disassociated at this point, she’s just got the “going through the motions” look of someone who had the worst news of their life handed to them and don’t know how to process it.
He’ll probably get a bunch of Nazi tattoos in prison.
The fact that he will essentially now be forced to do that in order to survive prison really is an indictment of the system. How are people supposed to rehabilitate when not joining a gang is likely to get them killed?
I’m not saying this guy is necessarily rehabilitatable, you have to have a particularly brainless mindset to even do this in the first place but in general it should be possible for people to improve in prison, otherwise what’s the point, we might as well go back to public punishment and executions, since that’s effectively what prison has now become. Minimum security prisons are probably closer to the ideal, but that’s obviously not an option for all inmates.
Prison in the USA has always been a punishment, they tried to say “rehabilitation” for a period to change their image and gave up.
I assume this is a historic post and not anything that’s happened recently.
Looks like 2017.
So did they get pardoned by Trump or not?
Looks like state charges so Trump can’t pardon them even if he wanted to.
The face of a man who has had his privilege card revoked.
Probably soon pardoned by the Oval Office.
Fortunately, it doesn’t have jurisdiction. It was a state offense.
Trump just “pardoned” an Oregon(?) state election official, convicted on state charges of (?)election interference. It’s symbolic, not I fully expect them to try to press that through officially.
It was Colorado, and it was purely symbolic. If his DOJ were to take this one to the Supreme Court, and SCOTUS rules in favor of the Trump Admin, then the US Constitution, which is currently only wounded (gravely), would be truly dead.
Don’t give this too much attention or Trump will pardon them.
If it’s state charges he can’t pardon them. He only has federal pardon powers.
This sums up the left so perfectly.
Which part? Opposing racism? Consequences for criminals? Feel free to elaborate
Why do you think pleading with the left to not pay attention is an opposition to racism or a consequence. Please explain.
Why do you think ignoring problems will make them go away? Are you a fucking toddler? Pretending not to see it won’t do anything to stop Trump from finding out about it
That is literally my point
You don’t have a point
Getting some basic reading skills. Don’t worry about engaging with this stuff until then
That’s disgusting and all, but 15 and 20 years is a little excessive, no? I’m from a country without mass incarceration or private prisons, but you don’t need nearly that much for people to learn their lesson
They threatened children with guns.
Edit: There is no reasoning with Americans on this topic. It makes me sad. What a shithole country
edit: actually this does not refer to who you were referring to. He seems more like your typical Usian liberal.
If I had to place a bet, I would replace “Americans” with “Russian Trolls”. You look at this guy’s account, all he does is stir up shit. I honestly have trouble believing that anyone in the USA has the time to sit and troll all day. That requires a wage, such as they exist in St. Petersburg.
Yeah, this wasn’t idle threatening behavior. This is the kind of behavior that if the police were involved would shoot the PoC on the spot.
They were waving around guns. That is assault by threatening someone’s life. Also complete disregard for public safety. It is a felony just brandishing a gun when not threatened yourself.
Even still if there’s no other record of violent behavior I imagine barring them from firearm possession, 5 years in prison, and 5 years probation would do the trick.
All punitive justice is good for is giving more slaves to the prison complex. Rehabilitation is better for everyone. It’s not only cheaper but also creates better (ie safer) outcomes for society.
After 20 years what will they even have to live for anymore? This is why people re-offend.
We don’t have a system of rehabilitative justice and we’re not going to start having one any time soon, so the options available to us for dealing with these shitbags are either lock them up or let them keep doing what they’re doing, I think preferring option 1 is extremely reasonable
Well no, you could have given them a more reasonable sentence.
By putting them in prison for 20 years you’re basically garunteeing they commit more crime when they get out. Congrats you’ve made society less safe.
Cool story, but as I said our reality is unfortunately limited to two shitty options and your idea isn’t one of them
Unfortunately my original idea working within the system was ban on firearm ownership, 5 years prison, and 5 years probation.
Plenty punitive, but at least gives them a chance of reforming a life afterwards. Works completely fine without giving in to your false dichotomy
Honestly why are you even from .ml?
Also in case you’re confused when I said rehabilitative justice is better that was entirely separate from my suggested sentence
There’s no reforming from being a racist shitbag that threatens kids with guns. He can rot in prison for 50 years for all I care.
Good news for once
(This happened like a decade ago twitter is just reposting)
Seems to forward to Youtube for visitors out of US. Here’s an archived version: http://archive.today/w17Oa
they are crying because they got caught, not because they felt guilty. its literally like how BRIAN “apologizes” to stewie
After watching countless interrogation videos, they are not only crying because they got caught. They are also crying cause they are going to jail and that their life is ruined now. If sentence would not be incarceration, they’d be happy and with a smile. It is always “am I going to jail?” rather than an actual sense of guilt.
I posit that the husband knows very well the welcome he’ll get in prison given how we predominately lock up PoC for even minor infractions then mistreat them.
Hahaaaaa have fun finding out you stupid fucks! Glad they got prison time and the judge wasn’t weak. Fuck ‘em and let ‘em die in shit, where they belong.
They’ll get out on good behavior no doubt, but even half that sentence is a big chunk of time though.
Im getting a 404 from that site
Thanks. 32 mos. Thats what I’d have expected. At least she’s got a record and did multiple years.
Video of the flag convoy https://youtu.be/lu1GjHAiHZg
For two days, the couple and the nearly dozen others waved the flags while aboard pickup trucks and targeted their slurs and threats at black families in counties outside Atlanta.
In Douglasville, the couple, among others, reportedly yelled racial slurs at the birthday party’s attendees as they drove by. Torres also threatened to kill the people at the party with a shotgun Norton had loaded and retrieved from his truck, the district attorney’s office said in a statement on Facebook.
This happened 10 years ago, and they were sentenced 8 years ago.
I really dislike how twitter screenshots never have date stamps in them. Makes things look recent when posted.
Shits wild tho. Fuck those people.
