Ignoring that my country doesn’t allow Idaho Stops, or that my Provincial Government wants to actively kill cyclists by removing safe cycling infrastructure, I’ve always wondered if there’s a reason why cyclists aren’t allowed to simply ride through an intersection like the one in the photo.
I’m talking about the right side, where the bike lane could extend through the intersection without interfering with other vehicles, including those that are turning left.
This would not only keep those stops safer (clears the cyclist out of the intersection), but would just make sense from a transportation efficiency standpoint.
Is there something I’m missing, or do cyclists have to stop only because motorists would take a tantrum if they weren’t required to?
My guess is because it’s a crosswalk.
In that example, you’re right. Not that it would make a difference, since there are crosswalks in places that permit Idaho Stops. But in other 3-ways, especially in residential areas, crosswalks are absent (so are sidewalks on the right side), so stopping feels… off.
Take this example:
Ignore that the bike lane “'continues” through the stop, as this stop sign is pretty new and the lines were already painted.
There’s no sidewalk on the right side, and no crosswalk at those stops (only on the left side). This particular area is part of our waterfront trail, an extremely popular bike route. It would make sense for cars to stop there (they speed down this road on a regular basis), but bikes?
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Friend, I’ll stop at pedestrian crossings while riding my bike, only to have cars blow by me while a pedestrian is already crossing.
Cyclists may annoy pedestrians, but cars kill them.
it’s a futile endeavour… A few guys have gone around doing street interviews now, and pedestrians generally seem to think cyclists kill more people than cars, and spout the most bizarre mental gymnastics to make car caused deaths an accident but cyclists have to pay dearly for their nearly nonexistent death doll, even though, as far as I could find while sifting through shitty AI slop articles, in most bike crashes with a death its only the cyclist dying regardless of who is at fault.
Anecdotally, and I can only speak for Toronto, but this may be a symptom of the local disability/blind advocates pushing this narrative.
We have a guy in Toronto who has been against pretty much any micromobility, saying that they kill the elderly, make it impossible for blind people to leave their home, and create chaos on the streets and sidewalks. When asked for evidence, he and his organization will ghost you.
Never once have I heard him say that cars are a problem.
He’s ALWAYS the guy that news stations put up as the disability advocate whenever topics around bikes, and e-mobility come up. It’s infuriating, and his organization is one of the reasons why Toronto bans e-scooters (even when their use means fewer cars).
Anyway, that’s my observation. LOL
Yeah I think we have a [that guy] here too. I think the local news realized he’s full of shit after lockdown though. He was seen with his jumbo truck decked out in conspiracy crap at several anti mask and anti vax protests blocking traffic, and was seen with a bunch of people regularly arrested for dumb shit. One guy he was seen with a lot lived in my old building and was arrested for invading the hospital and being a menace to literally everyone while trying to film proof that covid was a hoax. He was also a flat earther and died of covid leaving a 4 or so year old daughter behind.