Is some idiot trying to outlaw medical equipment in the States?
Mayor of New York
I thought he was trying to reinstate a pre-Covid ban and it has exceptions for wearing masks for medical reasons?
It’s not just about the disabled person, but anyone who lives with them needs to be wearing masks in public places because if they get sick it’s pretty hard to avoid spreading at home.
Medical exemptions have never been good enough.
I mean that whole idea is stupid. I’m still wearing masks on occasion. I don’t want to spread my mild flu to all the coworkers in the office, crowded train etc… I think we should do it like in some asian countries, where you’d just stop the flu spreading to some degree. Since you can’t stay at home all the time and that’s kind of contagious…
And the only benefit is that some dystopian total video surveillance keeps working…
Super stupid. Most everyone who wears a mask wears it for medical reasons. It’s none of our business whether they’re disabled or just don’t want to catch/spread a cold. It’s not even our business if they’re wearing it for non-medical reasons- I’m sometimes more comfortable in public in a mask and sunglasses so I don’t have to autism-mask as much.
I mean, masks are medical devices. That’s kinda what they’re for. Banning them is just supporting the disease.
Sounds like a good case for Work From Home more than anything
Thx. Seems I’m not too bad off, not following the news that closely… 😔
North Carolina already passed the law.
https://apnews.com/article/masks-ban-north-carolina-campus-protests-128a6aa32a4c832faa83befb2e7dd77e
Nice… Using a law that was meant for the Ku Klux Klan to repress democratic routine and freedom. At least that one seems to be targeted at protests and not all every day life. And it contains exemptions. I’m just not sure if “we want to film the faces of everyone who doesn’t agree with us” is a valid reason in a democracy. At least not on it’s own and if there isn’t some good reason to do it.
At least that one seems to be targeted at protests
You’re celebrating that, rather than accidentally targeting immunocompromised people, it deliberately targets people exercising their constitutional right to dissent?
Btw, like with abortion, any exemptions a GOP ban has will just be a fig leaf for the complicit media that’s not going to be in effect in the vast majority of cases.
??? I’m not celebrating that. I’m saying it’s “better” to target immunocompromised people the two times a year they go to a protest, than to target them every day in their daily lives. You could as well also ban them from protecting themselves in the supermarket or in the subway. And make their lives completely miserable. Going to protests happens more rarely, so it has lesser impact. But no. It’s totally not good or acceptable either.
It’s going to affect immunocompromised people every day of the year regardless, whether it’s supposed to or not.
Infectious disease doesn’t take a break because the cops “need” to identify “troublemakers” with their Orwellian spying on blameless people.
Besides, making it unsafe for everyone who ever participates in a protest to be around anyone who’s immunocompromised is a whole new level of oppression!
I think we’re talking at cross purposes… I 100% share your perspective. Same for me: Don’t throw sick people under the bus. In fact, don’t throw anyone under the bus. Don’t cut down on freedom and democracy. Don’t turn it into a total surveillance state just because you’re a politician and took Orwell as an instruction manual.
Fair enough heh. You have yourself a nice day 🙂
My concern is the application of it. They could see three people in a crowd wearing masks who are legitimately needing to wear a mask and then arrest them saying the crowd was an impromptu protest or illegal gathering and they can then apply that new law to them.
Clearly not what they were saying. You went out of your way to draw that conclusion.
Not really, no. Read my subsequent response to their poorly thought out reply for more information.
Of course, your reply was very well thought out.
Yes, it was. Now leave me alone before you start your nonsense on me again.
Yeah, that person wasn’t smart enough to connect those dots on purpose. It was clearly an accident.
Lol what a bunch of reactionary hicks
The law allows people to wear medical or surgical-grade masks in public to prevent the spread of illness. Law enforcement and property owners can ask people to temporarily remove those masks to verify their identity.
Am I missing something, it looks like this law allows medical masks.
The problem is that law enforcement doesn’t do nuance like that. You know full well they will tear masks right off of disabled/immunocompromised people’s faces (probably wrecking the mask forever) and point to the law as an excuse.
There’s no good reason to ban masks in general. The Healcare CEO shooter wore a mask during the crime but the police still caught him.
Victoria government in Australia
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
High risk individuals rely on others wearing their mask to protect them from infection. Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe. Hopefully they have the money to pay for deliveries for the season.
I can’t believe we are you still have to explain this in 2024. I have zero faith in humanity left, aside from Luigi ofc.
The reason they want you to not wear masks is, facial recognition that is literally everywhere doesn’t work if your masked. You can help protect the vulnerable and yourself from invasive tracking with this one simple trick.
That may be a side effect but it’s not the reason.
The reason is that they don’t want to be told what to do by the government. They want to use the government to tell other people what to do.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
This is about wielding power.
Just to pile on to that thought, it’s also a wedge issue that makes stupid people very angry, and angry people are motivated to be politically active. They will shout down reasonable people, commit acts of violence, and vote in reliable numbers. Polite society tends to avoid political debate, in part because the angry morons show up to disrupt the quiet.
The reason I don’t want you to wear masks is I don’t like being surrounded by faces I can’t read.
Yep I’ve had a cold all last week and have been masking up for my grocery runs. It’s just about being a decent human being.
The people who ban masks are so self centered that they think a masked person assumes that they are sick, or dirty. They never even comprehend that it might be to help them, because they don’t understand helping people
It’s important to note that the mask is far more effective in stopping the wearer from transmitting a virus than it is in stopping the wearer from contracting a virus.
It’s more effective for others to wear them than for you to wear them. But it is still beneficial to wear a mask outside when you’re at risk of contagion, assuming you pair it with hand sanitizer and other preventative measures.
Those people will effectively be relegated to their homes through the virus season if they want to remain safe.
At some point, telling people not to leave their homes if they want any kind of safety, but denying them access to medical equipment because it makes you feel unsafe only serves to deflect responsibility from the able-bodied to the vulnerable.
It would be like telling people in wheelchairs that ramps make me feel clumsy so you just shouldn’t leave your house if you want full mobility.
Exactly. I find it strange that someone who’s immune system is compromised to the point where a ‘common cold’ can kill them has been just hanging out in public and it’s only a problem now. Masks weren’t invented in 2020. Op is likely farming Internet points.
I’ve had a compromised immune system before. Going out in public and trusting a mask to protect me would be like wearing safety goggles when you jump into a wood chipper.
An N95 mask protects the wearer too.
It does, and you should wear it. But if you are immunocompromised (like me) you also need to protect your eyes, and wash your clothes, skin, and hair following a trip out in public. The days when people were wearing masks were wonderful.
All true! But it’s not all-or-nothing either - reducing the viral load of the initial infection actually reduces the severity of the symptoms by reducing the load on the immune system. An infection picked up from clothes will be much less severe than one directly inhaled into the lungs.
Sometimes going out in public is necessary, such as to the doctor, or to get food if there’s not someone to help with that. And sometimes it requires passing through other public spaces, such as public transportation. A person can have no illusions about the degree to which masks help, but still depend on them because what else is there?
As the spouse and caregiver of a compromised person, I wear a KN95 anytime I go into a store or other indoor public space, to try to avoid catching and bringing home anything that might land him in the hospital again.
Yeah. Clearly, they should just stay inside their plastic bubbles and never see the sun so that the rest of us don’t have to worry about coughing in other people’s faces.
They know, they don’t care.
American individualist propaganda has a load of people believing they’re free to do whatever the fuck they like, and fuck anyone who tries to stop them.
Selflessness is a rejected concept to them, they will never productively participate in a community of people.
Individualism for me, fashion police for you!
if only there was some sort of word for a political movement that weaponized the trappings of individual liberties in the name of killing marginalized people. i do nazi myself thinking of one
damn you just made some gears spin in my head
I think capitalism promotes “individualism” because the alternative is selflessness which means more money spent for the greater good of society
It took a long time, but one day, the term “human capital” finally clicked in my head and I couldn’t stop mulling it over until I realized how insanely fucked up it is. What are the humans? Capital. What is the capital? Humans. Human. Capital. And we’re so blase about it.
Whatever the fuck I like includes wearing masks. Also dresses. Fight me.
Stop talking about selflessness, start talking about selfishness, because wearing a mask is perfectly selfish. Yes it’s selfless, too, of course. But not wearing one isn’t selfish, it’s just dumb. If they were competent and proactive at selfishness they’d be aggressively demanding that everybody wear masks.
Seems like you could get this shit struck down by challenging it in court based on the ADA
not with republican filled courts lol
lets turn this around on them. they aren’t banning masks… they’re banning Halloween.
they’re trying to cancel Halloween! what’s next, Christmas?!
Given the popularity of anti mask overlapping with fundamentalist they would ban Halloween. Possibility even Christmas as the only holiday we are authorized to celebrate is the Lord’s Day, Sunday.
they aren’t banning masks… they’re banning Halloween.
I’m more than confident that the NYPD will make an exception for something that’s lucrative to Big Business. The issue is that medical masks outside of one day in October aren’t highly profitable, while CCTV cameras on every corner and AI facial recognition running across a thousand enormous data centers absolutely is.
Can’t justify the enormous state investment in spying if these high profile assassinations demonstrate the holes in the system. So we just make masks illegal (except on the one day when it makes businesses money) and tell people with weak immune systems to eat shit.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the kind of people to say that disabled people are a burden to society
Disabled people were some of the first German gas chamber victims.
Be me.
Have severe depression.
chuckles, I’m in danger
IIRC it was disabilities that resulted in institutionalizing. I mean, sure, your depression could be so bad it makes you suicidal - but the Nazis didn’t exactly have a problem with you killing yourself.
It was people with intellectual disabilities, physical disabilities, and disruptive mental disorders. Down Syndrome, Fragile x, quadriplegics, cystic fibrosis, schizophrenia, severe ASD, etc. Almost always things that have obvious changes to “normal” behavior, intellect, and appearance.
However, I will say the modern day list of disability has grown, and I would strongly suspect that if the Nazis of Germany could get their hands on modner medical records and purge far more things, they would not have hesitated to do so.
As a disabled person you’re spot on.
It’s the kind of people saying that disabled people should just “get on with their life” and stop “making everything about their disability”.
Like yeah sure Bradley, I would do that, if I could get on with my life because c*nts like you didn’t deny every attempt at making the world accessible. Maybe if people like you didn’t complain every time a cent was spent on an accessibility fund or on medical research I would actually be able to be getting on with my life.
But no, since we’re treated like shit I have to make “everything about my disability” just for my basic survival. Because if I don’t I’ll just be left in a ditch to starve.
I fear by “get on with life” they might just mean “end your life”.
That’s what it feels like to me.
It’s something like “Live as if you weren’t disabled because you making your disability visible bothers me. And if you’re unable to do that, well either stay in an institution where you belong or if you can’t afford that you should just die”
Get on with your life = status quo worship
Banning masks only serves to increase the overreach of our surveillance state.
Ski Masks is my Religion
It is commandment one of the Church of the Holy Skiers that Ski Masks are a mandatory Religious Garmet. This is a blashphemy against my Religion! A clear violation of my first amendment rights!
The people who want this don’t want other religions either
This is clearly a proposition intended to remove anonymity from any future shooters in NYC.
You saw the camera footage. It’s as watched as CCTV in London, apparently.
Freedom
Private property
is this under the assumption that this isn’t the point? they’re fascists, getting rid of disabled people is on brand and purposeful.
reminder that the party of “death panels will kill your grandma if anyone gets affordable healthcare” actively called for the death of grandmas when they didn’t want to be inconvenienced by a piece of cloth over their mouth.
Fantastic meme, OP.
If you’re being unironic, thanks ☺️.
If you’re being ironic because this is more a political thing than a meme, microblogmemes is meant to be a whitepeopletwitter alternative that doesn’t divide based on race.
Also the original (and more useful) definition is “a gene, but for ideas”. This is an idea that more people should consider, so it qualifies anyways.
Cultural memes and internet memes are not the same thing. This is neither.
Literally any shared idea is a meme.
We have an actual original definition to refer to. It’s Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene, and it’s very comparable to general “message” in information theory. “Internet memes” fit into his definition exactly.
Whitepeopletwitter isn’t for political opinions either. The content is supposed to be entertaining.
Are these “people banning masks” in the room with you right now?
In all seriousness, I wear masks when I go anywhere where there is high traffic and I’ve never even so much as gotten an angry gaze from anyone. I don’t think anyone would enforce such laws or initiatives.
Might vary from locale to locale
some folks on here are very paranoid and might suffer from severe anxiety disorder. They were saying how its draconian for your boss to ask for a doctors note and to fire you if you missed work.
This is not a meme.
Check the sidebar.
microblogmemes is meant to be a whitepeopletwitter alternative that doesn’t divide based on race. There’s no rule about it needing to be funny or a joke.
I will continue calling out the political soapboxing here for as long as I either get banned or they change the name of the community.
It seems like you only call out certain political soapboxing. I wonder why that might be?
Because of my hidden agenda against disabled people ofcourse.
Oh I thought you were a fan of the pedophile rapist in chief, not that you hated the disabled. TIL.
You’re hilarious.
You do talk endlessly in your comments about how you run your own construction business. The chances you didn’t vote for Epstein’s rape bud (or would if you were a us citizen?) are pretty low.
You literally can’t change the name of a community.
People used to say this about subreddits too.
It’s a silly thing to say. Communities and subreddits aren’t files you can rename on a whim.
Then perhaps we should just make a community for screenshots of political twitter posts and keep the meme communities for memes.
Or perhaps saying you’ll keep soapboxing until the impossible happens is silly.
I waste my time on pettier things than that.
Soapboxing until the impossible happens is literally what you said you were going to waste your time on:
I will continue calling out the political soapboxing here for as long as I either get banned or they change the name of the community.
You apparently have a poor memory.
Technically what you did is say this wasn’t a meme. It wasn’t until here you mentioned why you’re upset about it not being a meme, and now you are very reasonably being downvoted straight to hell where you belong.
Weird, but ok.
